Windows 10: Samsung Hybrid HDD & ExpressCache - cannot find partition

Discus and support Samsung Hybrid HDD & ExpressCache - cannot find partition in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; I recently installed Windows 10 on my Samsung Series 7 Chronos (NP700Z5A-A01DX). The HDD is a Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 which I originally thought... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by Fultonius, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. Fultonius Win User

    Samsung Hybrid HDD & ExpressCache - cannot find partition


    I recently installed Windows 10 on my Samsung Series 7 Chronos (NP700Z5A-A01DX).

    The HDD is a Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 which I originally thought was a hybrid HDD with 8gb ssd partition, but I'm not 100% sure.

    Anyway, with Windows 7 the computer came back from sleep in 1 or 2 seconds, now it's much slower. I've followed all the instruction online for reinstalling ExpressCache etc. but I get the error message "SSD not fund, please create a partition manually".

    Running DISKPART, List Disk I only have a one disk showing. (750gb, Drive 0)

    Any thoughts?

    :)
     
    Fultonius, Nov 1, 2015
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  2. File Explorer stopped working,

    Just an update.

    With Expresscache disabled my machine has been perfect for the last 5 days.

    If you are using a hybrid HDD you are probably using Expresscache to manage the small SSD.

    Consider to disable it and see if your problems go away.

    If I formatted the SSD cache my booting/explorer.exe problems would go away until whatever problem software that was being loaded on the cache was put back by Expresscache. Then I would get boot looping and hang ups on the explorer.exe again.

    So unless you have a version of Expresscache specifically certified to work with Win 10 consider to dump Expresscache.

    Getting an SSD to replace your HDD seems to be the way to go then to get the speed back. As a bonus the SSD from the hybrid drive is still likely on you motherboard and you can use it for something like the pagefile.
     
    Mark.William.Kennedy, Nov 1, 2015
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  3. Majster Win User
    Windows 10 0xc000000f

    Lenovo M73 + Samsung SP600 - 128GB SSD :
    solution with UEFI BOOT & GPT partition table is now 100% tested - IT WORKS !

    So now we can do the summary:

    Problem exists on small system partitions (>120GB), on disks with MBR partition table format.

    TWO SOLUTIONS ARE 100% TESTED AND WORKING:

    1. FOR PC's SUPPORTING UEFI: enable UEFI/SECURE BOOT and partition Your HDD/SDD using GPT partition table format. No more trouble, and this
    solution is independent on Your HDD/SSD size.


    2. FOR PC's without UEFI SUPPORT: install at least 240GB HDD/SSD, create a system partition on a whole disk surface (the size of system partition
    should not be smaller than 200GB).


    I think there is still one mystery: one of us have a hybrid disk, which was bricked - as he claims - during this update. In my opinion it is not possible, but what if I'm wrong?
     
    Majster, Nov 1, 2015
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  4. fdegrove Win User

    Samsung Hybrid HDD & ExpressCache - cannot find partition

    Hi,

    AFAIK that's a regular HD but your laptop comes with a caching SSD (probably Samsung? ) of 8Gb in size which doesn't seem to be connected in your system somehow.

    Can you check in the bios of your machine ?

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Nov 1, 2015
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  5. Fultonius Win User
    OK, since I was last on here I have reverted to W7 and found that my SSD is still not found. Checked in BIOS and it's not there either.

    I have now re-installed windows 10 (because if I'm doing battle, I might as well do it with W10). I've opened up my laptop to see if I could locate the SSD, but I couldn't find it. It's apparently soldered to the motherboard. Is it possible it's just died?

    It would seem strange to die at the same time as installing windows 10, but in my experience you can't always
    rule that out.Do I just have t accept that I'm not going to able to run express cache? Could I buy a hybrid SSD and replace the current HDD, then run express cache on the ssd partition?

    If I wanted to regain my fast load up from hibernate - would buying a hybrid SSHD (such as Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive (SSHD) Hybrid 8GB SSD 3.5 Hard Drive ST1000DX001 PC/MAC/Linux - Scan.co.uk
    ) work?
     
    Fultonius, Nov 13, 2015
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  6. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    I doubt express cache will work with any brand of hybrid drive but that's just a hunch though.
    Does it even work under Windows 10 ?

    Windows 10 Boot Time on Samsung Series 7 Chronos SLOW!

    Why not use a SSD and an external HDD for mass storage ?

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Nov 14, 2015
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  7. Fultonius Win User
    Do you think an SSD would be as quick for boot-up and wake up from hibernate as my old 8gnb Expresscache drive was? (1second from sleep).
     
    Fultonius, Nov 14, 2015
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  8. fdegrove Win User

    Samsung Hybrid HDD & ExpressCache - cannot find partition

    Hi,

    There's no reason I can see why it shouldn't be.
    In fact, the entire system should be a lot faster and limited mainly by SATA III limitations.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Nov 14, 2015
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  9. xeleron Win User
    The hard drive model that you listed is not a hybrid drive,it is a standard laptop HDD.What you were seeing in windows 7 was a small cache drive installed on your laptop that made booting very fast.I doubt it was visible and configurable in any way,since the optimisation was generally carried out by the os.So far many laptops equipped with expresscache do not have the feature available under w10 due to licensing issues(condusiv is licensing per unit and per OS,that is one license for w7,one for w8),if I am mistaken please correct me.Also,the only company producing standalone expresscache products is sandisk.
     
    xeleron, Apr 5, 2018
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