Windows 10: Selecting Windows or Linux

Discus and support Selecting Windows or Linux in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Hello, My Sony laptop was set to tri-boot between Win10, Win7 and Linux Debian. At that time I had a screen that looked similar to this except the... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Soapm, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Soapm Win User

    Selecting Windows or Linux


    Hello,

    My Sony laptop was set to tri-boot between Win10, Win7 and Linux Debian. At that time I had a screen that looked similar to this except the options were Win10, Win7, Debian and Safe Mode. The BIOS was set to Legacy so I'm assuming I had a MBR and I believe I set it up using EasyBCD. It might also of been set when the system was Win8.1 before upgrading to Win10.


    Selecting Windows or Linux [​IMG]


    My drive died and the new drive is formatted GPT with Win10 and Debian. I am wondering how to get this screen to appear while booting so I can choose which operating system I want without using rEFInd or entering the systems firmware.

    EasyBCD doesn't seem to work with GPT and I can't see the Debian partitions while in Win10 so I can't assign them a drive letter to run a "BCDEDIT" command. I am thinking the EFI partition must hold the key since I can mount it while in Debian and see various files (grub.efi, bootmgfw.efi etc...) but I have no idea how to work the key??? Everything I do seems to point me directly into Win10 without the above screen which allows me options.

    Can someone please help getting that screen back with Debian and Safe Mode as options?

    Code: C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit Windows Boot Manager -------------------- identifier {bootmgr} device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1 path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi description Windows Boot Manager locale en-US inherit {globalsettings} default {current} resumeobject {b4e919a2-d74a-11e6-a753-aa16a1802b19} displayorder {current} toolsdisplayorder {memdiag} timeout 5 displaybootmenu No Windows Boot Loader ------------------- identifier {current} device partition=C: path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi description Windows 10 locale en-US inherit {bootloadersettings} recoverysequence {b4e919a4-d74a-11e6-a753-aa16a1802b19} recoveryenabled Yes isolatedcontext Yes allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075 osdevice partition=C: systemroot \WINDOWS resumeobject {b4e919a2-d74a-11e6-a753-aa16a1802b19} nx OptIn bootmenupolicy Standard C:\WINDOWS\system32>[/quote] Code: DISKPART> list partition Partition ### Type Size Offset ------------- ---------------- ------- ------- Partition 1 System 243 MB 1024 KB Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 244 MB Partition 3 Primary 194 GB 260 MB Partition 4 Recovery 507 MB 195 GB Partition 5 Primary 405 GB 195 GB Partition 6 Unknown 139 GB 600 GB Partition 7 Unknown 116 GB 740 GB Partition 8 Unknown 74 GB 857 GB[/quote] Partition 3 is Win10
    Partition 5 is my Win10 home drive
    Partition 6 is home drive in Debian
    Partition 7 is Debian OS
    Partition 8 is Swap partition

    PS... What is that blue screen called? It's hard to google something when you don't know its name...

    :)
     
    Soapm, Feb 2, 2017
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  2. Rohn007 Win User

    Windows 10 very slow performance since I dual-boot

    OK, back to the question, how do you start linux?

    When you are starting the computer, is there an option to select Windows or Linux? Or do you start Linux some other way?
     
    Rohn007, Feb 2, 2017
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  3. Can't see my other operating system in MSCONFIG

    If the other operating system is Linux based, I recommend you use EasyBCD to add a boot entry for it:

    EasyBCD

    Select the Linux/BSD tab. Click in the type list box, select Ubuntu; enter the name of the Linux distribution, choose automatically locate and load then click Add Entry. Reboot your computer.

    See an example:

    https://www.groovypost.com/howto/dual-boot-wind...
     
    Andre Da Costa, Feb 2, 2017
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  4. Fafhrd Win User

    Selecting Windows or Linux

    Immersive boot - bootim.exe in C:\Windows\system32 - but it always surprises me what it shows, as I have the legacy text boot menu, like in Windows 7, so i rarely see it. Here it is in the background offering to "Turn off your PC":


    Selecting Windows or Linux [​IMG]


    I would ask on a linux forum, the idea is to get an entry on the menu that chainloads (is that right?) the grub menu for linux from the windows menu. and Linux geeks are better at that than Windows geeks!
     
    Fafhrd, Feb 3, 2017
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  5. Soapm Win User
    Yup, that's the way it was working. It would chain load to Debian from the Windows menu...

    However, I don't think this is part of boot manager since it doesn't appear until windows is almost booted. Also, I can get the text menu you said by changing this option to yes;

    Code: Windows Boot Manager -------------------- identifier {bootmgr} device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1 path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi description Windows Boot Manager locale en-US inherit {globalsettings} default {current} resumeobject {b4e919a2-d74a-11e6-a753-aa16a1802b19} displayorder {current} toolsdisplayorder {memdiag} timeout 5 displaybootmenu No[/quote] Immersive boot, thanks, I will look into that...
     
    Soapm, Feb 3, 2017
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  6. Fafhrd Win User
    Immersive boot menu is not well documented - it seem that a subset of WinPE runs a graphical menu-which is a pain in the butt - anything other than the default menu entry sees another warm boot before the selected OS starts I circumvent it by setting a legacy bootmenupolicy with bcdedit

    I have linux mint and puppy linux on my boot menu - here are the entries


    Real-mode Boot Sector
    ---------------------
    identifier {8440d262-e8ca-11e1-b520-f8ae97c7258e}
    device partition=D:
    path \linuxmint\winboot\wubildr.mbr
    description Linux Mint
    locale en-US


    Real-mode Boot Sector
    ---------------------
    identifier {fea2ca10-31b8-11e4-a0b0-ac162d586f27}
    device partition=E:
    path \grldr.mbr
    description Start Puppy Linux







    Linux mint 13 was installed using mint4win - ubuntu WUBI modified for Mint, Puppy linux with its own windows friendly installer. Both systems live in folders on the NTFS volumes D: and E: as highly compressed image files containing the filesystems.

    They are really simple entries as you can see, but they probably won't suit a real grub boot and proper linux partitions with ext2 or ext3 filesystems, so I'm not much more help here.
     
    Fafhrd, Feb 4, 2017
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  7. Soapm Win User
    Code: They are really simple entries as you can see, but they probably won't suit a real grub boot and proper linux partitions with ext2 or ext3 filesystems, so I'm not much more help here.[/quote] This is the key, if I could assign them a drive letter then my problem would be solved but because the partition isn't recognized in Win10 so no way to assign the drive letter. According to the EasyBCD site, this is a limitation when using GPT so these capabilities are disabled. Maybe I'll look into that mint4win or just delete Debian since I rarely use it these days...
     
    Soapm, Apr 4, 2018
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