Windows 10: Slippery Registry Changes (NumLock) in Win10: Fast Startup is Culprit

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  1. Slippery Registry Changes (NumLock) in Win10: Fast Startup is Culprit


    Hi,

    I want to share a summary of what I think I learned in finally resolving my problem with tweaking my Win10 registry to keep NumLock on.

    Short version: "Fast Startup", a feature in Windows 10 (which is turned on by default during installation of Win10), runs when the Power button is pressed to start the computer. Fast Startup ignores any modifications you made in the Windows Registry file. Pressing Power->Restart after changing the Registry does not run the Fast Startup program but does load your modified Registry file. You will think your Registry changes were successful, but they will disappear when you press the Start button on the case to boot the computer from a powered off state.

    If you want to utilized a customized Registry, you will have to live without Fast Startup. Depending on your system, Fast Startup may or may not have a noticeable effect on boot time. To disable Fast Startup, go to: Settings -> System ->Power & sleep ->Additional power settings -> Choose what the Power Buttons Do -> (if necessary) Change settings that are currently unavailable ->Uncheck the box next to Enable Fast Startup.

    Long version:
    • After upgrading to Windows 10, the default state of NumLock on my keyboard was set to Off. This was a pain because I use the numbers-only password to unlock the computer and find it easy to use the separate numbers area of the keyboard. I could turn on NumLock by pressing the NumLock key at every start-up, but it would always go back to NumLock->Off after every restart. There is no setting in my BIOS to change NumLock status.
    • From researching on this forum and others, I learned that changing settings in the Registry should take care of this.
    • After saving the modified Registry and restarting the computer, the NumLock was On at start up. I thought this meant my problem was solved.
    • However, when starting the computer by pressing the "on" button on the case, NumLock was back to "off". After repeating the steps of changing the Registry, restarting to confirm the NumLock fix, then later finding NumLock mysteriously unfixed itself, I thought I was going nuts.
    • As others on this Forum have reported, the goblin is a Windows' feature called "Fast Startup." Fast Startup promises a faster boot time. Note that "Fast Startup is not the same as "Fast Boot." Here is a link to a great explanation of Fast Startup: Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    • Fast Startup was not loading my modified Registry file when I pressed the 'On" button on the computer case to boot the machine boots from a cold start. Pressing Restart does not load "Fast Startup", but does load the modified Registry file.
    • In my machine, I discovered that there is no option in the BIOS to change NumLock.
    • I dug deep into Windows settings until I found and disabled "Fast Startup". Settings -> System ->Power & sleep ->Additional power settings -> Choose what the Power Buttons Do -> (if necessary) Change settings that are currently unavailable ->Uncheck the box for Enable Fast Startup.
    • Sure enough, when I pressed the Power button to boot up the computer, NumLock stayed on. I conclude that pressing the Power On button on the computer loaded the modified Registry file. Every time!
    • Since I have the operating system loaded on a Solid State Drive, Windows boots really fast (about six seconds), even with Fast Startup disabled. Although I did not make a quantitative study, I don't believe there was any measurable difference in boot time.

    I hope this can help others approaching insanity.

    :)
     
    GratefulUser, Oct 18, 2015
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  2. Slippery Registry Changes: Windows' Fast Startup program ignores keyboard settings in the Registry File: Mysteries of NumLock state at boot up

    Hi,



    Thank you for posting on Microsoft Community. We appreciate your interest in Windows 10.



    We appreciate the troubleshooting steps you carried in order to resolve your issue on your own. Let me help you further in resolving the issue you are facing with.



    Before assisting you further, I would like to ask you a question regarding your query.



    What is the InitialKeyboardIndicators value set to?



    Run the power troubleshooter by following the steps below, and check if the issue is resolved.



    Step 1: Type troubleshooting
    in the search box next to Start icon, and select the top most search result.

    Step 2: Click on View All
    from the left side of the screen panel.

    Step 3: Select Power from the options,
    click on Advanced option, and check
    Apply repairs automatically
    option.

    Step 4: Follow the on screen instructions.



    Refer to the suggestion given by Hakanwar Singh from the link below:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/windows-10-numlock-on-at-start-up/8730fd91-984f-4fc4-9bbd-831cd7ce3a4e



    Hope this helps!



    We will be happy to assist you with any issues pertaining to Windows.



    Thank you.
     
    Likhitha V, Oct 18, 2015
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  3. Slippery Registry Changes: Windows' Fast Startup program ignores keyboard settings in the Registry File: Mysteries of NumLock state at boot up

    Hi Liktha V,

    Thank you for offering to help. My NumLock is on at start up, even after I press the start button on the computer case. This is what I want. The trick was to disable Fast Startup after modifying the Registry key to 2147483650.

    What I want to know is: Can you confirm if Fast Startup loads the Registry file? I don't believe it does. If not, can Fast Startup be forced to load the Registry file?

    Here are the values in the Registry keys for InitialKeyboardIndicators:

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard\InitialKeyboardIndicators is set to 0

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\win.ini\Windows is set to USR:Control Panel\Keyboard

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\win.ini\Windows is set to USR:Control Panel\Keyboard

    HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard is set to 2147483650

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Keyboard is set to 2147483650

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Keyboard is set to 2147483650

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Keyboard is set to 2147483650

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-3328689495-2766180848-2531419661-1003\Control Panel\Keyboard is set to 0

    Thank you for your suggestion about the Power Troubleshooter. I ran it. I am not sure how this relates to my questions about Fast Startup.

    Thank you,

    Bill
     
    GratefulUser, Oct 18, 2015
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  4. fdegrove Win User

    Slippery Registry Changes (NumLock) in Win10: Fast Startup is Culprit

    Hi,

    Thanks. *Cool
    It explains a lot of minor issues I've been having with Win10

    Btw, even if the bios has an option to activate numlock, Win 10 will just ignore it.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
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