Windows 10: SSD: To sleep or not to sleep

Discus and support SSD: To sleep or not to sleep in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; Windows 10 pro (x64) Build 15063.483 (RS2), 2 internal ssd's, 2 internal hdd's, 16g ram, i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz Up until recently, for over a year I... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by kitpzyxmsir, Aug 5, 2017.

  1. SSD: To sleep or not to sleep


    Windows 10 pro (x64) Build 15063.483 (RS2), 2 internal ssd's, 2 internal hdd's, 16g ram, i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz

    Up until recently, for over a year I was having a miserable time dealing with random system freezes and not waking up from sleep (no signal, had to manually shut down and reboot), even tho I had all functions related to sleep/hibernation disabled.

    It turns out my cpu was defective. Now that it has been replaced, I felt comfortable going back to using sleep mode, and for the past 3 week everything has been fine.

    Until today, when something strange happened. I turned on the monitor, and it showed "no signal", which is typically what happens in sleep mode, but nothing happened when I rattled the mouse, or when I momentarily touched the button

    I eventually did what I thought would result in a manual reboot, firmly pressing on the power button for several seconds until the backlight on the button went off, at which time I "assumed" it was rebooting.

    But instead, it went to my lock screen, and everything was still running (browser etc.), just as as it would when coming out of sleep.

    This is my current settings
    Attachment 147498

    I have since disabled sleep, so I will have to wait and see what happens next.

    One question I have, is sleep necessary with an SSD?

    Also, what are these settings about
    Attachment 147500

    They seem to be redundant and contradict the other settings.

    thanks

    :)
     
    kitpzyxmsir, Aug 5, 2017
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  2. BBVR Win User

    USB SSD keeps unmounting when putting laptop to sleep

    I have a bus-powered external USB hd (WD MyPassport Ultra) that does not unmount when putting the computer to sleep.

    My external SSD however, is still unmounting when putting the laptop to sleep.

    Windows 10 apparently does not know how to properly deal with external SSDs?

    My external SSD is a Samsung T3 512GB
     
    BBVR, Aug 5, 2017
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  3. Windows 10 Disk usage 100 %

    Similar problem. Brand new computer received April 29 2016. 128GB SSD for OS/ Programs and 2TB spinning disk. When the system wakes from sleep, 100% Activity on the SSD from task manager, but under Disk tab on Resource monitor, 0.00 disk queue. Several
    blogs but no fix. The vendor stated this is an existing problem with Microsoft Windows 10 and SSD and suggested if reimaging the NEW SYSTEM might help. In my case, recovering from sleep caused the issue - every time. I disabled sleep and instead had the
    system hibernate (not what I needed but it's a work-around).
     
    KenPzlTexas, Aug 5, 2017
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  4. swarfega Win User

    SSD: To sleep or not to sleep

    Sleep isn't really meant for desktops, it's more for laptops and mobile devices. I have mine set to high performance in power profile and turn monitor off after so many minutes inactive. If I'm not using the computer for an extended period like two hours and I've not set it to do anything while I'm away, then I just turn it off. It only takes two seconds to boot so its not really much of a hassle.

    This is how I have my advanced settings set but I don't have any hard drives on here:


    SSD:  To sleep or not to sleep [​IMG]


    I was reading an anecdote today where company employees thought 15 minute boot time was normal!
     
    swarfega, Aug 6, 2017
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  5. tcebob Win User
    My boot time from a cold start to lock screen is about 20 sec, then 10 sec for it to sign me in (bypassed password) and about a minute to load my startup programs. 2 seconds to boot seems like the impossible dream, but I can always hope . . . .
     
    tcebob, Aug 6, 2017
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  6. I use sleep on my Desktop. I want to conserve energy. The only way I can wake mine up is by pressing the power button. If you have your hard drive turned of and turn on the monitor you won't see a signal.
     
    Josey Wales, Aug 6, 2017
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  7. Works for me. That's how I've always had it have it set.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks. The hdd's are strictly data. I also turned off "Allow hybrid sleep"

    I'd still like to know why that sleep incident occurred today tho.

    I cant decide whether I want to laugh or cry *Rolleyes
     
    kitpzyxmsir, Aug 6, 2017
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  8. SSD: To sleep or not to sleep

    Yes, it's normal to see "no signal" under those circumstances, but until today, a simple wiggle of the mouse or keyboard punch did the job for me, and as I posted earlier, the sleep button was disabled
     
    kitpzyxmsir, Aug 6, 2017
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  9. NavyLCDR New Member
    That is not exactly correct. Windows sleep is meant for desktops. It's a way to place them in a low power consuming mode while allowing for instant return to full power. The OS state is maintained in RAM so power is required to maintain the RAM (and to power USB devices that are set to wake the computer), but most of the other hardware is turned off or placed in a low power consumption state. Hibernation is meant for laptops, notebooks, and netbooks because it saves the state of the OS to the HDD and then shuts the computer completely off. This allows for a faster power on experience, but does not continue to use battery power when off as the sleep state would do. Usually the power button is required to be pressed to resume from hibernation.
     
    NavyLCDR, Aug 6, 2017
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  10. There is a setting to have it wake by mouse movement.
     
    Josey Wales, Aug 6, 2017
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  11. swarfega Win User
    I watch a youtuber whose been in the business 25 years and he frequently states that hibernation is not really for desktops. I still stand by my statement that its better to turn the machine off when not in use.
     
    swarfega, Aug 6, 2017
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  12. sygnus21 Win User
    Thank you. Agree.
     
    sygnus21, Aug 6, 2017
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  13. NavyLCDR New Member

    SSD: To sleep or not to sleep

    And I completely agree! Hibernation is not really for desktops! And I also agree that I just turn my computer off, because with an SSD I have a <10 second boot time from full power off with Windows 10 fast startup disabled. The only time hibernation (for laptop type computers) or sleep (for desktop) computers would really benefit me is if I had a lot of work in progress that I wanted to return immediately to - and then, I would not trust sleep or hibernation to preserve that work because sleep requires power to maintain - suffer a power outage and that work is lost. And I just don't trust hibernation enough in Windows 10.

    So all my computers just get turned completely off when not being used.
     
    NavyLCDR, Aug 6, 2017
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  14. I think that device manager setting is selected by default, no??

    Anyway, that's the setting I had and it didn't work that one time, as I said, but it hasn't happened again.

    It bothers me when I don't have an explanation for a weird behavior like that, but, oh well *Confused
     
    kitpzyxmsir, Aug 9, 2017
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  15. For years I was scared to turn my Computer off when not being used, read somewhere years ago, possibly from old HP PC manual that said "Do not turn off unless changing hardware or electrical storm" was an old slimline PC, that the power supply died on a few years ago

    Now I shutdown my system nightly, or not set to sleep if I got something i'm working on, and then just remote in during the night via phone remote desktop app to check on it, or do another maintenance task if needed

    Still use balanced power plan though, as I thought wouldn't be good running at High Peformance all day, and having CPU heat up more than it would on balance unless i'm wrong on that to lol
     
    AMDMan2016, Aug 9, 2017
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