Windows 10: Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours

Discus and support Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; During the clean install I formatted both my SSD and hard drive so everything was wiped out and was starting on a clean slate. Okay good. After... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Alphaheat, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. simrick Win User

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours


    Okay good.

    Have you tried a clean boot, to see if the problem reappears as well?
    Clean Boot - Perform in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts - Windows 10 Forums
    The reason I ask is, I had problems with the ASUS software and had to take it off my system.

    Also, does a new administrative-level user account have the same problems? If not, I would move all my data over to the new account and delete the corrupt account.
     
    simrick, Sep 15, 2016
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  2. simrick Win User

    Another thing you might check is Reliability History - see what's erroring - there may be a clue there.
    Try Run>perfmon /rel
     
    simrick, Sep 15, 2016
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  3. Alphaheat Win User
    I shut my computer off overnight and I just logged on.

    Cortana and Search seems to be working now. Hopefully it stays that way but I doubt it.

    I'm leaving a time-stamp here to see how long it lasts. 3:49PM


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  4. Alphaheat Win User

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours

    Update: The Cortana Search lasted for about an hour or so and it switched back to old habits...

    A new thing now is when I try to double click on .mp4 files this shows up:


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    I have to right click -> open with -> Windows Media Player in order for it to play....
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  5. simrick Win User
    Any clues in reliability history? Have you removed the ASUS apps?
     
    simrick, Sep 16, 2016
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  6. Alphaheat Win User
    Hmm very interesting....

    Looks like Mircrosoft Windows Shell Experience had a problem...


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]



    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    9:38
    was around the time I restarted my PC and logged back in.

    The Check for solution ​option just says: No new solutions found
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  7. Alphaheat Win User
    News: I may have worded my problem incorrectly as @dalchina has mentioned but I think I have a clearer picture of it now because I found a thread on the Microsoft site that was sort of similar to my problem and had 64 replies to it. Its an older build (from 2015) so I don't know if the solutions listed there are still applicable. I just copied and pasted the package's name that stopped working into Google and I found the thread. I would have hoped upgrading the version would have solved it but that doesn't seem to be the case with me.

    I ran perfmon /rel and found out that a certain process stopped working right when I log on to my account after I restart it. Its also called Windows.ShellExperienceHost which has me to believe its connected to the Cortana and Start Menu.

    Here are the technical details:

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    So if anyone can use this information to help me that would be great because I don't know much about it and how I can apply it (if I even can) to my case.

    Link: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...1-f3c299f85081
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  8. simrick Win User

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours

    Realtek drivers need updating.
    If you have ASUS AI Suite on there, you might try removing it completely as well.
     
    simrick, Sep 16, 2016
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  9. Alphaheat Win User
    Tried updating the Realtek Audio drivers but Windows says its already updated.


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    As for ASUS AI Suite, I never downloaded the program so I don't think I have it on my system.
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  10. simrick Win User
    That link you provided: One person mentioned that it was a display driver issue; another a BIOS update needed; another person linked to this:
    Another post is
    That's tough to read, so
    Right-click an empty space on desktop
    Create a new folder named SHELL
    Open the folder, click on File in upper-left and click on Open Windows Powershell (be sure to open as Admin)
    Copy and paste this text into the Powershell Window:
    Code: Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}[/quote] This is the re-register all apps tutorial that I linked to earlier.

    Perhaps you could save the text file from Ccleaner of installed applications and upload that here?

    Also, did you answer if this happens in a clean boot? I don't recall seeing that. Maybe I missed it - it's very late here.
     
    simrick, Sep 16, 2016
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  11. simrick Win User
    Please make sure you check them all. There are more than one.
     
    simrick, Sep 16, 2016
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  12. simrick Win User
    simrick, Sep 16, 2016
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  13. Alphaheat Win User

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours

    Double checked both Realtek Audio drivers for updates and Windows still says that both are already up to date.


    Ran the code: ren %windir%\System32\AppLocker\Plugin*.* *.bak into CMD with Admin privileges but the system can not find the file. I looked through the thread and a few people have similar problems b/c the folder that contains whatever the code is effecting is empty (AppLocker I believe is the folder name)

    Code: C:\WINDOWS\system32>ren %windir%\System32\AppLocker\Plugin*.* *.bak The system cannot find the file specified. C:\WINDOWS\system32>[/quote]

    I've been suggested to run this code Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"} through Powershell before and it didn't seem to help but I decided to try it again. I ran it twice as well.

    Windows Start Menu is as empty as ever and the Cortana Search seems to have been altered a bit. I can no longer find programs like Steam or Photoshop. Select applications like Illustrator have a label underneath it that says Run Commandand if it has that, I can open it. I reported this observation already about a few posts up.

    Cortana Search no longer brings up Control Panel. Now its just one single result: Nvidia Control Panel which can be run.



    Here are the CCleaner results as requested: 3D Builder Microsoft Corporation 9/16/2016 11.1.9.0 Adobe Creative Cloud Adobe - Pastebin.com

    I have not touched any ASUS programs yet so that will be my next plan of action. I just have to find out if I actually have any ASUS programs and how to uninstall if I do.

    I've seen the thread on ANTEK but the problem is, no notification appears when ANTEK fails. The only way I knew about it was from the perfmon /rel search.

    As for a clean boot, I haven't done it yet. I'll be trying that next as well.

    Small Update:
    Ran
    through Power Shell a third time and restarted my computer. Right after restarting, my start menu is looking a lot healthier.

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]

    I can't click on anything but its showing up so that's a win in my book.

    Next up we have a perfectly working Cortana that's able to search for stuff. Great news but I guarantee something will go wrong again. I'm giving this a few hours.

    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    Ran perfmon /rel to see if any stopped working and I am happy to say that nothing stopped working. So it looks like if nothing stops working, then my Cortana Search (excluding Windows Menu b/c that's still semi broken) will work! This is a really good thing to note.
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  14. Alphaheat Win User
    As predicted, the Cortana Search and Start Menu have reverted back to their old ways!

    I quickly checked perfmon /rel and these were the suspects:


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]



    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    Start Menu & Cortana Buggy After a Few Hours [​IMG]


    Once again, Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost stopped working. So in all three cases that my Cortana Search and Start Menu failed to work, Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost just happened to stop working. I think these are definitely linked and that it may be the culprit.

    From that, I did a Google Search and I think I hit the gold.

    A thread on the Microsoft forums that was created on May 15, 2016 (so its somewhat recent) with 646 people having the same problem!

    I gave it a quick look through and most of the suggestions I have already tried.

    Here's the link for reference: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...a-145170fe029c
     
    Alphaheat, Sep 16, 2016
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  15. simrick Win User
    Hmmm...lots of irritated people in that thread! *Wink
    Not seeing ASUS AI Suite on your system, so don't worry about that.

    EDIT: Please make sure Fast Startup is turned OFF.

    Please put the system in a clean boot state.
    At an admin command prompt:
    Code: DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth[/quote] Then:
    Code: sfc /scannow[/quote] Please upload command window screenshots of the results of both.

    Then enter:
    Code: findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\Logs\CBS\CBS.log >"%userprofile%\Desktop\sfcdetails.txt"[/quote] Find the file sfcdetails.txt on your desktop and upload it here using the CODE (#) button in Advanced Reply.
     
    simrick, Apr 4, 2018
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