Windows 10: Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft

Discus and support Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; Setting>Storage shows that ThisPC is C: That's not correct, since This Pc contains two Windows, Linux Mint and a data partition. I don't expect... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by 91fw, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. 91fw Win User

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft


    Setting>Storage shows that ThisPC is C:
    That's not correct, since This Pc contains two Windows, Linux Mint and a data partition.
    I don't expect windows to see Linux partitions.
    But no matter how I look at it, I cannot make any sense out of the display in Settings

    :)
     
    91fw, Jul 3, 2017
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  3. 8000---01 Win User
    Calculator app in Lumia 800

    I don't think I've ever seen any calculator, basic or otherwise, that can't handle what is, in effect, simple arithmetic. In fact, I have a Samsung phone which cost £4.95 brand new that can handle this!
     
    8000---01, Jul 3, 2017
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  4. bro67 Win User

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft

    This is an old argument. It has been stated over and over, that the space calculated by Windows is correct. You have to go into Drive Management to see the actual size of the partition, not from explorer.

    As for looking at the Ext4 partition, you can download third party utilities or use Gparted in Linux to see them.
     
    bro67, Jul 3, 2017
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  5. 91fw Win User
    "old" - oh, yes, I failed to search first. Sorry.
    Windows explorer numbers match diskmgmt.msc numbers.
    Storage view listed as ThisPC (C: ) under Settings makes no sense to me.
     
    91fw, Jul 3, 2017
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  6. Berton Win User
    Your Storage isn't much different from mine, on my only internal 1TB HDD C: is my Windows/boot/system partition and D: partition is for additional Data and programs. And then I have an ODD and 3 USB HDDs. Are your C:, E: and M: partitions on a drive or separate drives?

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft [​IMG]
     
    Berton, Jul 4, 2017
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  7. 91fw Win User
    Yes, it is all on one drive. DiskMgmt display(3 partitions to the right of M: belong to Linux.):
     
    91fw, Jul 4, 2017
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  8. Berton Win User

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft

    Your 3 lettered partitions plus the 4 unlettered partitions plus the unallocated space total about 465.77GB suggesting the drive is marked by the manufacturer as 500GB. There is some 'loss' of capacity as drives get partitioned and formatted, quite normal. The Storage view doesn't take into account unlettered partitions or unallocated space, probably won't even see any sections using unsupported formats.
    Unallocated = unpartitioned, unformatted
     
    Berton, Jul 4, 2017
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  9. 91fw Win User
    I have no problem with 465GB. Yes, it is a 500GB drive.
    Screen shots in my first post show Storage reports 87GB used out of 139GB. How is that possible on 78GB windows 10 partition? I did google today and found nothing similar.
    Berton, can you post what explorer shows like I did in the second screenie in the first post. Just to compare notes.
     
    91fw, Jul 4, 2017
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  10. Berton Win User
    Sure, in about an hour when I'm back on my Win10 computer [using my MacBook Pro running macOS Sierra now].
     
    Berton, Jul 4, 2017
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  11. bro67 Win User
    As the calculator proves, this is the exact amount for 500gb: 465.6613 USB Hard Disk Real Capacity Calculator -- EndMemo A lot of that has to do with reserved space for any bad blocks or sectors. Also it holds a copy of the MBR and other partition info in a reserved space, as it moves data when sectors start to go bad, it will move that data into reserved areas as it tries to rearrange data to make sure that blocks of common files like the Pagefile, stay in one large area.

    You can use one of the Tree Viewers to show you how data is laid out and to see what is eating up space. If you have Hibernate enabled, turn it off in Command with Powercfg /hibernate off The page file if too large, can also eat up precious space, same as downloaded files that Windows holds in a reserved folder and temp files.

    Always clear out old installs, temp files, etc, before getting a real count of drive space available.
     
    bro67, Jul 4, 2017
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  12. Berton Win User
    As promised, same screenshots as you have:

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft [​IMG]


    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft [​IMG]
     
    Berton, Jul 4, 2017
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  13. 91fw Win User

    Strange storage arithmetic by Microsoft

    @Berton, thanks. So your Storage values match closely what explorer shows.
    Mine do not. I wonder if I should now worry.

    @bro67, you suggested I look in disk management, so I posted disk management in post#5. The issue is not the size of drive. It is about discrepancy between explorer and what Windows reports in Storage. Explorer is correct. Storage is not.
     
  14. AddRAM Win User
    Yes, why does C show 139 GB in Explorer and 78.4 GB in DM, that is strange.
     
    AddRAM, Jul 4, 2017
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  15. Berton Win User
    Your Disk Management shot shows 4 Unlettered partitions and 1 Unallocated section, mine has only 2 lettered partitions and 2 unlettered which is the default way ASUS set it up. I still think the Storage feature can't show Unlettered partitions or drives like Disk Management and File Explorer can. Many other programs won't see any more than the lettered drives, even File Explorer can't see Unlettered drives until after they have been partitioned and formatted in Disk Management then given a letter.
     
    Berton, Jul 4, 2017
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