Windows 10: System image or recovery flash drive?

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  1. oeivinr Win User

    System image or recovery flash drive?


    Of the above which is the better solution to backup or do I need both? Also, I have a desktop and a laptop both running Windows 10 fall creator version. I have created a recovery flash drive with system files included for the desktop. Will that one also work for the laptop? Or do I need to create a seperate flash dive for the laptop?

    Thanx


    :)
     
    oeivinr, Oct 30, 2017
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  2. katinfoco Win User

    Is the system backup for Windows 10 still identified as a Windows 7 task name?

    still confused about system image (win7 terminology) vs recovery on usb (win10 terminology)...

    we have 3 machines, some with win7, some with win10. which backup/restore/recovery/system image ???

    program should I use to ensure that I have backups/restore/recovery/system image ??? available in case of pc failure?

    the terms used in win7 and win10 are very confusing.

    also, re win10, hate to use up a large flash drive just for a recovery in win10 (when creating a recovery in win10, it wipes out all other files on the flash drive).

    Can I use the flash drive for other files? Or maybe revert back to the win7 backup and restore that does not wipe the flash drive??
     
    katinfoco, Oct 30, 2017
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  3. katinfoco Win User
    "backup and restore win 7" or "recovery" for win10, which one to use on Win10?

    still confused about system image (win7 terminology) vs recovery on usb (win10 terminology)...

    we have 3 machines, some with win7, some with win10. which backup/restore/recovery/system image ??? program should I use to ensure that I have backups/restore/recovery/system image ??? available in case of pc failure?

    the terms used in win7 and win10 are very confusing.

    If the preference is to use "recovery" in Win10, why is there an option to choose "backup and restore Windows 7" available in Win10

    also, re win10, hate to use up a large flash drive just for a recovery in win10 (when creating a recovery in win10, it wipes out all other files on the flash drive). Will the recovery option still work from a flash drive with other files on the drive?
     
    katinfoco, Oct 30, 2017
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  4. dalchina New Member

    System image or recovery flash drive?

    Hi, Use 3rd party disk imaging. We continually recommend this, as does MS now in place of Win 7 Backup and Restore.

    Separate images needed for each device.
    Image the set of Windows partitions, and then image your data disks/partitions.
    Keep personal data off C: as far as possible.

    Here's my write-up on the value of disk imaging.

    Everyone who contributes regularly here uses and recommends disk imaging.

    If you use it, you can recover from:
    - a failed disk drive (restore to a new one)
    - ransomware (which encrypts your disk)
    - user error
    - unrecoverable problems from failed updates to problem programs
    - unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)

    Images also act as a full backup- you can extract files too.

    You can even use images to help you move more easily and quickly to a new PC.
    Can be used with Laplink software to transfer your build automatically to another PC

    Imaging can even help you sleep at night knowing you have a second chance.

    Creating disk images lets you restore Windows and all your imaged disks and partitions to a previous working state from compressed copies you have created and kept updated on external storage media, quickly and probably without technical help.

    Many here recommend Macrium Reflect (free) as a good robust solution and more reliable than some others. It’s
    - more feature rich
    - more flexible
    - more reliable
    than Windows Backup and Restore system images.

    It's well supported with videos, help and a responsive forum.

    There are other such programs, free/commercial, some with simpler interfaces, but Macrium R is one of the most robust and reliable.

    How long does it take?
    SSD+ USB3 - maybe 15 mins for the first system image, less thereafter
    HDD + USB2 - maybe 40-50 mins
    That’s with little personal data, few programs installed.
    - of course, depends how much you have on C:
    (You can and should image all your partitions and disks)

    Once you've created your first image, keep it updated with e.g. differential imaging- which images just changes from the first image, more quickly, and creates a smaller image file.

    You need a backup medium - say- twice as large as the total amount of data you are imaging to keep a reasonable number of differential images. This will vary dependent on the number of images you keep, so is only a rough practical guide.

    Some comment that system restore isn't always reliable; if it works and solves the problem, great. But sometimes restores won't work or fail. And of course a restore point only covers a limited number of aspects of the system. That’s where disk imaging comes in.

    (There's a tutorial on Macrium in the Tutorials section, and a couple of videos in the user videos section on this forum)
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect Backup Restore Tutorials
    Windows 10 instructional videos by Ten Forums members
     
    dalchina, Oct 30, 2017
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  5. Plankton Win User
    IMO....both....simply because the image backup might become corrupt and/or you may want to do a clean install at some later date.
     
    Plankton, Oct 30, 2017
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  6. cereberus Win User
    A recovery drive is specific to PC.

    If you want to clean install, just use media creation tool which is generic and works on any pc. Also recovery drives are out of date after 6 months anyway.
     
    cereberus, Oct 30, 2017
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  7. Plankton Win User
    In the OP title it says recovery flash drive.....which I took it meant the install media using the MCT from MS.
     
    Plankton, Oct 30, 2017
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  8. NavyLCDR New Member

    System image or recovery flash drive?

    Then you also need to reed the actual post:

    That is not a Windows 10 installation drive made from the MCT.
     
    NavyLCDR, Oct 30, 2017
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  9. Plankton Win User
    That's exactly why I suggested the OP to create the install media with the MCT.
     
    Plankton, Oct 30, 2017
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  10. Bree New Member
    That is not a Windows 10 installation drive made from the MCT. Quite right, it is in fact a drive specifically tailored for the PC that it was made on. The 'system files included', in addition to all the files needed to clean install Windows, can also include any OEM custom install files, such as device drivers and OEM utilities. The Recovery Drive with system files included is effectively a 'factory reset' drive.
     
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