Windows 10: The Clean Install Question. Reading Between The Lines.

As it stands now, no.

Only Current Build Business (CBB) will be able to delay updates, but not deny updates.

This isn't as big a deal as it sounds... most user like to look, but end up installing everything anyway (Bing and Silverlight were the exceptions and occasionally an AMD driver need to be corrected). Bing isn't an issue any longer, Silverlight is almost dead (I was offered one SL update in March I think).

Since I download and install anyway, why should it matter. Still there's that part of me that refuses to relinquish update control to any vendor. Under normal circumstances it will work well, it's the one off circumstance that bothers me - when things don't work well and I can't connect because my driver was updated. This is rare - I just grab the copy of the driver from storage and I'm back on line.

The only thing left is the occasional AMD driver issues - not to worry about that though ... 10.0.130 can't get it right.

Seriously, MS has a lot riding on Win10 - the device drivers have to work flawlessly or Win10 will go down in flames.
They're working very hard on this and maybe ... probably ... that's why 10.0.130 has the number of driver issues members are reporting.

This position might change, but MS really wants to have all machines running the same level of code to make their lives (development, support, end user confusion, what ever) and really our lives that much easier.

Will people accept that? We'll see if mankind and machines can adapt to changing conditions or go the way of the dinosaurs. *Wink

 

With all the bad updates we've seen lately, I am glad that I have my WU set to "notify only". I usually wait for a week or even 2 before I install WUs. If they take that control away from me (which it appears they are indeed doing) I will be VERY irritated.

 

With the new update model, that's what the Slow ring will be for. You only get updates when they have been vetted by the fast ring.

 

most of us don't have MSDN or Tech net accounts there were no legal ISO until recently. With window 7 MS made ISO available through Green River.. Neither 8 or 8.1 were available.

 

I never understood why the did not release ISO for Win8. I am never comfortable downloading a OS from torrent

 

It's been like that for as long as I can remember. It's only recently that you can get an ISO for 8.1 without jumping through hoops. The first download site wouldn't accept OEM keys and those were the ones needing an ISO the most. And you couldn't install with an 8.0 key, you had to use a generic 8.1 install key, then activate with your 8.0 key. That's all history now with the Media Creation Tool for Windows 8.1. I had to resort to bit torrent when I got my laptop and put in an SSD. I wasn't an MVP at that time and cloning the hard drive to the SSD would not work. I now have MSDN so ISO's for me are not an issue now. Others are not so fortunate though.

 

Microsoft have pulled the digital river downloads for Windows 7.

 

MS wants as many people as possible on 10. Why make it easy to continue using 7 or 8?

 

I think you could well be correct on this. Just spotted this,

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/w...o=daily%20news

And Windows Update is one of the 'sacrifices.

 

*Redface I followed up to make sure my information was correct.....

Home users will lose control over Windows Update - those installs will get updates automagically.

Pro and Enterprise install can delay (as well as CBB), but not deny updates.

Windows 10 Specifications - Microsoft

My bwain herts ! *Smile
My apologies.

You must have missed the memo: Create installation media for Windows 8.1

 

Yes but you would have to do the upgrate first either throught the update or with ISO. The will give you a new key and WIndows 10 will be reactivated. Then you dl the ISO for the clean install and provide the new key.

 

and can I, with my retail version of win 8.0, upgraded to w8.1, do the same?

 

I believe this is widely mis-reported and misunderstood. I don't think there will be new keys. You will simply be using your existing Windows 7 or Windows 8.x key with Windows 10. If you do an upgrade of Windows 10 today from Windows 7 Home, and then use the key finder, it returns your Windows 7 key, and I believe that is exactly how it will work after RTM.

 

Not on my install, Windows 7 to 10074 > 10122 > 10130. The listed "Installed key" does not match the one listed as "Original key". I'm not saying your wrong, just an observation is all. If you have any info on this please post a link. I'd also like to know how its going to handle when there is an embedded key but its not the key in use. Like if you upgraded an OEM install to Pro or added Media Center. Is your Media Center key going to be your windows 10 key?

 

Also, Windows 7 OEM SLP installs use a common key across PC's from the same manufacturer. Example, all Dells with Windows 7 Home premium use the same OEM key? How is that going to work, multiple Windows 10 installs all with the same key?