Windows 10: Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7?

Discus and support Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7? in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; Version 1703 was forced on my laptop. 1709 has been trying to install itself since January, without success. That's fine with me because I don't want... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Picadilly, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. Picadilly Win User

    Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7?


    Version 1703 was forced on my laptop. 1709 has been trying to install itself since January, without success. That's fine with me because I don't want it. My understanding is that there is no way to disable Windows Update after 1703. So when 1709 tries to install, I simply turn off the computer, which give me a few days of peace before 1709 tries to install again. By the way, the installation violates the set active hours, trying to do it in the middle of my work day.

    I've read dozens of stories of Windows 10 updates wrecking people's computers. I am 100% dependent on my laptop for my work as a freelancer. If my laptop stops working, I will lose thousands of dollars. The problems with Windows 10 and my loss of control over what happens to my computer is scaring me!!!

    Yes, I'm backing up my work files, but I don't have any technical ability to protect myself beyond that.

    QUESTIONS:

    (1) My computer is not on the HP list of computers that are compatible with Windows 10. But 1703 installed successfully. Does this mean that my computer should be compatible with version 1709?

    (2) This problem (forced updates) is disturbing me enough that I'm thinking of installing Windows 7. This would be incredibly laborious and risky. Honestly, it takes me a full month to get everything installed correctly (antivirus, email, word processors, files, etc etc), solve dozens of bugs, update drivers, remove garbage, and set up the computer for maximum usability (I have vision problems and need to modify the interface extensively. I would have to pay a technician to do the main installation of Windows 7 because I don't have enough skill. I have minimal computer knowledge. What do you think of this idea of installing Windows 7, in hopes that Microsoft will come to its senses in a couple of years and restore user control over updates?

    (3) I have a spare computer with Windows 8.1. I assume that if I try to use it, it will also be subject to the forced update to Windows 10?

    Thanks very much for your help!

    :)
     
    Picadilly, Feb 16, 2018
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  2. After upgrading to Windows 10 icons are not working

    so many problems with windows 10 should I go back to 8.1

    Original title: windows 10 problems
     
    RhonaTavernia, Feb 16, 2018
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  3. Windows 10 profile too many crashes I want to go back to windows 7.

    Reverting can only be done if you installed within the last 30 days (if you created a new user it must be removed before you revert)

    Reverting is not recommended as there are too many possibilities for problems

    To revert go to all settings>update & security>recovery>roll back to a previous OS

    This will only work if the windows.old folder is present. If it is not you will have to re-install.
     
    ZigZag3143 (MS -MVP), Feb 16, 2018
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  4. Bree New Member

    Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7?

    No. The free upgrade offer ended on the 29th July 2016. The KB3184143 update in early 2017 should have removed the 'Get Windows 10' app from the system (if it was ever installed at all).
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-upgrade-offer
     
  5. Picadilly Win User
    Good observation. In that case the end of the free upgrade is a blessing.
     
    Picadilly, Feb 16, 2018
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  6. Bree New Member
    None of mine are on their manufacturer's Windows 10 compatible lists, but they run 1709 without a problem.

    If you have Pro you can defer Features Updates (like the update to 1709).

    Windows Update - Defer Feature and Quality Updates in Windows 10
     
  7. Picadilly Win User
    Sadly, I have Home. Thanks for the info about compatibility.
     
    Picadilly, Feb 16, 2018
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  8. Bree New Member

    Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7?

    It has been reported that the Registry settings in Option Two of that tutorial work in Home too.

    Windows Update - Defer Feature and Quality Updates in Windows 10
     
  9. To disable Windows 10 Creators Update in Windows Update. Open Regedit and locate the following:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings:

    Right click the <<Settings>> folder to create a new 32-bit DWORD value and name it HideMCTLink and set its value data to 1. Exit Regedit.

    You shouldn't see 1709 anymore and will be receiving 1703 updates normally.

    I don't know about the HP compatibility list. How old is the laptop? You should not go back to Seven, Ten is better.

    Take care,
     
    MikeMecanic, Feb 17, 2018
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  10. Picadilly Win User
    OK, I've made the registry changes suggested by both Bree and MikeMecanic. Should I have done both, or only one of these solutions? THANKS!
     
    Picadilly, Feb 17, 2018
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  11. Bree New Member
    They do different things, so there's no harm in using both.
     
  12. All I know is that the given method works for my ants on 1607 since a year. She does not like 1607 and wants me to clean install 1709 now.
     
    MikeMecanic, Feb 17, 2018
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  13. Picadilly Win User

    Too many Windows 10 problems, should I go back to Windows 7?

    OK, I rebooted after making the registry edits. Boot time went from two minutes to 30 seconds! I'm definitely happy about that!!! Thanks a million.

    Windows Update is still showing as running in the task manager. Is that ok?

    Sorry for this dumb question: For the active hours, is midnight 12 am or 12 pm? There is no agreement about this in the English-speaking world, so I just need to know about Microsoft World.
     
    Picadilly, Feb 17, 2018
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  14. Bree New Member
    Yes, you'll still want to get the quality updates (security/bug fixes).

    12am, but if you want to be really sure just change the Windows time format to 24hr and it will become obvious.

    Change Date and Time Formats in Windows 10
     
  15. Berton Win User
    Midnight is 12AM, noon is 12PM.

    For the 'free' debate, even though the GWX/Get Windows 10 did end there was an extension called Assistive Technology [also free]. Last I was able to get was around January 10, 2018, last check didn't bring up the page I had used but that's okay as I have no more computers to Upgrade. And Yes, a Version number change has traditionally been known as Upgrade [for example 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709] as an Upgrade makes a lot of changes while Builds are more like Service Packs.
     
    Berton, Feb 17, 2018
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