Windows 10: Update hell & goodbye MS

Discus and support Update hell & goodbye MS in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; I think a contributory factor for my issues is that I have the box ticked to 'Give me updates for other Microsoft Products' which means issues outside... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by DavidA23, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. Berton Win User

    Update hell & goodbye MS


    I've found that to be true with some of Microsoft's programs, tend to screw things up so I have that 'feature' set to Not automatic.
     
    Berton, Mar 11, 2017
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  2. jimbo45 Win User

    Hi there

    if you want absolute 100% stability using Linux try CENTOS 7 -- It's not so "Leading Edge" as a lot of the others but it's 100% reliable -- as robust as any OS can be and is the Free version of the widely used Red Hat enterprise system RHEL Enterprise.

    Index of /rolling/7/isos/x86_64

    Download the latest DVD image for your system as an ISO, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB stick and install -- it's SIMPLE !!!!. Just boot the USB device and follow the on screen instructions --you can install to any set of HDD's you like - including external ones - unselected HDD's won't be touched by the install process so easy to Dual boot or whatever to test with.

    The CENTOS OS is used by literally 100,000's of commercial servers around the planet. 100% Free as well. RED HAT make a lot of their money on service contracts - and they support CENTOS 100%.

    Then on that run Windows as a VM and you have the best of BOTH worlds without having to invest in new hardware.

    I'm not getting into a discussion here as to which Linux system to choose - but running Windows as a VM seems to me to be a mega good idea - and Linux Networking usually works FIRST TIME straight OOB. !!!!

    Suffice to say I run TWO Centos servers on "NAS boxes" with Windows VM's and the only time I have to re-boot these is if I'm actually upgrading the hardware or some defective HDD needs replacing (very rarely). Even on some systems (not mine though) you can HOT SWAP defective HDD's on some RAID configurations without a reboot.

    A kernel update also needs (but isn't mandatory) a reboot to use the new kernel - but since CENTOS has long term stability these don't happen very often (although you can if you wish use latest and greatest Software etc by installing it manually).

    Note - one thing if you DO use CENTOS you'll have to install package ntfs-3g to read and write windows NTFS files (FAT32 already taken care of). This package isn't installed by default.

    Whatever Linux you use also download SAMBA for file sharing with Windows.

    Things like VLC and PLEXMEDIASERVER work 100% on Linux too and for OFFICE - forget Libreoffice -- use this one - it's the most compatible office version I've seen for Linux --you'll need though a separate email client.

    Best office run on Linux platform, WPS Office for Linux

    This is brilliant and free - can't understand why so many mention LibreOffice which IMO is a hideous cludge.

    BTW also FREE Windows version for those who don't run / can't afford Ms Office on Windows.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Mar 11, 2017
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  3. DavidA23 Win User
    I'm struggling here to see the advantage. It may be 100% stable but since I will only be using Windows and
    all the software, drivers etc I use are for Windows then what would I be using CENTOS for other than a base. Presumably the VM Windows will still need updates (the nub of the problem) and so CENTOS adds just another layer of complexity. I'll check it out but at the end of the day all I want is an OS that works for the stuff I do - mainly graphics.
     
    DavidA23, Mar 11, 2017
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  4. Update hell & goodbye MS

    My routine is to install updates, then perform a cleanup, ever since I do it, it is a smooth experience.
    I use CCleaner + Wise Disk Cleaner + advanced Disk Cleanup. Download WF.bat and run it as admin.
     
    TairikuOkami, Mar 11, 2017
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  5. NavyLCDR New Member
    @DavidA23, wasn't it you that posted:

    So what gives?
     
    NavyLCDR, Mar 11, 2017
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  6. pparks1 Win User
    Linux isn't the right answer for you. If you want to use Windows software, you really should stay on Windows.
     
    pparks1, Mar 11, 2017
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  7. DavidA23 Win User
    The others were suggesting possible solutions. Obviously I've invested in Windows software so if the update problem were sorted then I'd carry on with MS. However, since it seems that it's not going to be & since I find it immensely frustrating to waste hours attempting to restart the PC following most updates then who can blame me for hating Windows.
     
    DavidA23, Mar 11, 2017
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  8. NavyLCDR New Member

    Update hell & goodbye MS

    How about going back to Windows 7 then? The "forced" upgrades to Windows 10 and nagging to upgrade to Windows 10 are gone in Windows 7 now.
     
    NavyLCDR, Mar 11, 2017
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  9. DavidA23 Win User
    Yes, that's a possibility I'm considering after looking at the crazy price of Macs with their tiny screens
     
    DavidA23, Mar 11, 2017
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  10. alphanumeric, Mar 11, 2017
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  11. pparks1 Win User
    The macbook screens are 12". These are ideal for portability. Macbook Pros offer 13" and 15" screens, as well as more power and performance.

    While prices seem high, they offer great monitors and pci express SSD's which can really move some data. Their touchpads are top notch. They go to sleep and wake up faster than any PC I have ever used.

    So, at the end of the day they aren't really thwt expensive, they simply don't offer low cost bargain options.
     
    pparks1, Mar 11, 2017
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  12. MrWhoopee Win User
    After dealing with multiple update FUs on client's computers, I disabled the Windows Update Service on my machine. When I want to update, I'll turn it on. I prefer to let others Beta test the latest updates.

    The odds of an unpatched system being compromised seem to be much lower than the odds of the system being trashed by an update.
     
    MrWhoopee, Mar 16, 2017
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  13. viju Win User

    Update hell & goodbye MS

    I am facing never ending updates problem for windows 10.My windows 10 does not shutdown.I have to choose restart and boot it to Linux.Then I choose shut down.Fortunately I am not dependant on Windows 10.I have a Multiboot system with Windows7 and Ubuntu,Mint,Suse and Debian Linux.I use Linux for browsing net and Windows 7 for off line work.Windows 10 has become plaything.
     
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