Windows 10: Upgrade to Win10 on a dual-boot machine

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  1. oakridge Win User

    Upgrade to Win10 on a dual-boot machine


    For some work that I am still doing after retirement I need a dual boot machine consequently my Windows 7 Ultimate lives alongside Ubuntu 12.04 with a shared data partition. Does anyone know if it will be safe to upgrade to Windows 10 without wiping Linux? I am still using Ubuntu 12.04 on this machine because there was some doubt about the safety of upgrading to 14.04.

    Thank you.

    :)
     
    oakridge, Jun 11, 2015
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    BryanDeVries, Jun 11, 2015
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    Well, the creator's update came out. Had the screensaver problem with photo gallery, fixed it. But I have a dual boot machine with Win10 home and Debian 8 as my media server, and the update wiped the dual boot out. So if you have a dual boot machine,
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    Joe Tannenbaum, Jun 11, 2015
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  4. groze Win User

    Upgrade to Win10 on a dual-boot machine

    Do you have Mini partition wizard installed? If not, you can get it the free version from Major Geeks not Cnet. I just need to see how your drive is partition. I need a screenshot uploaded that shows your partition to see if I can help you. Partition Wizard should have a screenshot selection in the menu.

    Do you think you could install Ubuntu 15.04 on your system? They improved hardware support with a lot of systems.
    Do you mind doing clean install for Ubuntu?
    Do you want to test the preview of windows 10 or do you want to install the release of windows 10 when it comes out?






    (Note-my next reply may take a little longer than normal but I will post as soon as I can).
     
    groze, Jun 12, 2015
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  5. oakridge Win User
    Thank you very much for very helpful reply. Let me explain the situation with this dual-boot machine and another Ubuntu 14.04 which acts a file server I am busy cataloguing a collection of documents (about 100,000) in many formats from plain ASCII text to ePub and MOBI and many different headings; first name first, surname first, title, numbered etc. There are very many duplicates and this must be condensed into a uniform surname first file. In view of this I think a policy of wait and see is wise. There are 4 other Windows 7 machines involved in bookkeeping and HR so we will try Windows 10 out on one of those. I really cannot cope with re-installations on my machine at this stage.

    Thank you again for your very helpful post.

    Malcolm Brown
     
    oakridge, Jun 12, 2015
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  6. Jools Win User
    Jools, Jun 12, 2015
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  7. You need to check your video chipset on the Ubuntu 12.04 machine because, if it's an AMD chipset, with a machine that old, it's likely to be one of the HD 2x/3x/4x-series (or older) and AMD dropped Linux driver support for those years ago. If you upgrade a machine with those to any release newer than 12.04.1, you'll lose AMD restricted driver support.
     
    Mark Phelps, Jun 12, 2015
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  8. groze Win User

    Upgrade to Win10 on a dual-boot machine

    The Amd driver could be a problem even with windows 10 on the one system with 12.04 Ubuntu

    The upgrade to windows 10 could be done but it is a little bit more complicated then my level of expertise but there is still a risk of data loss and still having to do a clean install.

    See, I have 15.04 xubuntu with windows 7. One issues I came across when using windows 10 and having a triple boot system. Each build release, I had disable grub or it wouldn't upgrade to the next build, windows updates patches didn't have an issue with grub. Another issue to get the triple boot to work, was I had to a do a clean install of xubuntu totally in the extended partition.

    WMC will be removed on your computers that you choose to upgraded to windows 10.
     
    groze, Jun 12, 2015
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  9. oakridge Win User
    Thank you again for your replies.

    I have a GeForce graphics card installed and I am not sure whether this use AMD drivers.

    I set the system up by installing Ubuntu first with 2 2GB partitions and the rest of the 2TB drive as a data partition. Linux went went into one of the 2GB partitions and then I installed Windows 7 into the other. Ubuntu, therefore, controls which OS to boot into. It was tricky but it works very well.

    With the work that I am doing I think it will be safer to try Windows 10 on another machine, but there we need to make sure that Quickbooks Pro will be happy. Of course there is the other ruler that it is wise to wait for release x.1 of any Microsoft product.

    Life never runs smoothly.

    Malcolm
     
    oakridge, Jun 13, 2015
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  10. allend66 Win User
    Hi guys,

    I know this is an old thread but I have a question related to this: I want to dual boot Ubuntu 14-04LTS with Win 10. So, Malcolm, would you say it's easier to install Ubuntu first then Window 10 as opposed to win10 then linux?

    Thanks
    D
     
    allend66, Oct 29, 2015
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  11. spapakons Win User
    When upgrading Windows 7 to 10 the boot loader will be replaced by Windows Setup. After the upgrade is complete, you must boot with an Ubuntu DVD and install Grub again to be able to boot into Ubuntu. Since you are only modifying the Windows partition, you shouldn't lose any data on other partitions. So before you begin, make sure you have a bootable Ubuntu DVD-ROM or USB Flash drive.

    As just said, you can install Windows 10 after Ubuntu, but you will have to reinstall Grub. For a new (clean) installation, it is easier to just install Windows 10 first and then Ubuntu which will automatically install Grub to let you dual-boot.

    PS: Instead of reinstalling Grub, you can use a utility such as EasyBCD to add a boot entry for Ubuntu at Windows Boot Loader. You could also do it with bcdedit from an elevated command prompt, but it is too complicated for the average user. EasyBCD is far easier with its GUI.
     
    spapakons, Oct 29, 2015
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  12. allend66 Win User
    thanks... will do
    D
     
    allend66, Oct 29, 2015
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  13. oakridge Win User

    Upgrade to Win10 on a dual-boot machine

    Hello,

    Although I was a Microsoft Partner for many years now that I am retired I hardly ever need Windows so I decided not to bother. It is probably worth waiting for the first upgrade anyway. A Samsung TabS has also entered my life since then so I do a good deal of stuff on that.

    Malcolm
     
    oakridge, Oct 29, 2015
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  14. spapakons Win User
    Sorry to tell that, but to do more than using the internet and office work you need Windows. Not trying to start an OS war here, but to get advantage of all the features of your hardware you need Windows as most drivers and applications are written for them. Using Linux limits you to certain applications that not always have all the features of a well-know Windows application or are not that easy to use. Anybody having used Open Office to do something more advanced than typing a document knows what I mean. Also most hardware will get generic third-party drivers rather than official OEM driver and hence not work at its full potential or not have all the features available as when used in Windows. Not really desirable for most of us. Linux is good to experiment with, but it has a long way to go to replace the every day OS of an average user. And what I hate most is that you have to resort to the terminal even for the simplest thing!
     
    spapakons, Oct 29, 2015
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  15. oakridge Win User
    Hello,

    In the 40 years that I have been involved in IT of one sort or another I used all sorts of weird stuff in the early days, DEC, VAX with teleprinters, no monitors, but since then I have only used Unix or Linux servers with various flavours of desktops. I liked Windows 2000, 2003 and 7 very much, but I haven't got on too well with anything after that. Linux really does do everything I need to do at present often from the console so that I can see exactly what is happening.

    In the past I have written many EPOS and accounting programs both for Windows and other platforms but now I can do everything Ubuntu. At present I am cataloguing a collection of over 100,000 documents in various formats and author/title arrangement which is keeping me quite busy.

    It is surprising what machines can be persuaded to do when they are built and programmed to do the job. My wife builds, I program.

    Malcolm
     
    oakridge, Oct 29, 2015
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