Windows 10: USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10

Discus and support USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10 in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; I have 2 desktops (with completely different configurations) and 2 USB3.0 card readers - Lexar Professional and Transcend card readers, paired with... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by tententwenty, Mar 11, 2017.

  1. USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10


    I have 2 desktops (with completely different configurations) and 2 USB3.0 card readers - Lexar Professional and Transcend card readers, paired with Lexar 1000x SD card.

    The weird problem is that sometimes, the transfer of my RAW images will dip to usb2.0 speeds (around 30+MB/s). Sometimes, it takes a restart. other times, it takes an eject and re-plugging in to get back the USB 3.0 speeds. It happens on both card readers, and on either desktop - so I'm thinking it must be an OS related issue.

    There are no special drivers required (none provided also if you're on win 10) and it's automatically installed by Win 10.

    In addition, it happens regardless of whether it's on Intel's native usb3.0 ports or the 3rd party controller.

    Has anyone else had that issue? How did it get resolved?

    here's the normal speed it should hit with my card/reader combo:


    USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10 [​IMG]


    :)
     
    tententwenty, Mar 11, 2017
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    canes---01, Mar 11, 2017
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    Alex_The_Vegan, Mar 11, 2017
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  4. Berton Win User

    USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10

    Haven't seen the same exact issue as yours but generally I find using a Self-Powered USB 3.0 Hub plugged into USB 3.0 ports on a computer to be the most reliable rather than relying upon the computer's ports to provide sufficient power and maintaining that constant power. For working with my clients I keep both Self-Powered USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 Hubs. In theory and most practical use USB 3.0 ports can fall back to providing USB 2.0 function. However, some older Thumb drives may not work in USB 3.0 ports as well as some older printers, etc.
     
    Berton, Mar 11, 2017
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  5. theoretically speaking, shouldn't the motherboard's built-in USB ports be more reliable compared to self-powered USB hubs since there is no "intermediary" per-se? power shouldn't be an issue since it will tap on the PSU directly (and I have no lack of it, using a 850w seasonic)
     
    tententwenty, Mar 11, 2017
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  6. Since you didn't state the card reader model #'s and your system specs show nothing, We don't know your configuration. We need to have detail info on those items (ie: Mother board Manufacture and model number, etc) before we can really try to help you.
     
    storageman, Mar 12, 2017
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  7. pbcopter Win User
    Each type USB port has its own power limitation and it is not a function of the size of the power supply.
     
    pbcopter, Mar 12, 2017
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  8. fdegrove Win User

    USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10

    I'm pretty certain it is an OS issue but I don't think there's anything you can do about it short of hacking the registry every time you plug in something into a USB 3 port.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Mar 12, 2017
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  9. Berton Win User
    Could be but keep in mind that most BIOSes support USB 2.0 natively [Legacy] while USB 3.0 needs drivers loading with Windows to get the support.
     
    Berton, Mar 12, 2017
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  10. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Sure.

    Never boot up with a USB 3.0 device plugged in as Windows may flag it as USB 2.0 capable most of the time but not necessarily recognize it as USB 3.0 capable.

    Never plug a USB 2.0 device into a USB 3.0 port either as there's a good chance that when a USB 3.0 device is plugged in later it will run at USB 2.0 speed.

    W10 gets easily confused when it comes to USB 3.0 devices and when in doubt it will use USB 2.0 speed to be safe.

    A good free little tool to see what's going on is USBTreeView by Uwe Sieber.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Mar 12, 2017
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  11. This all depends on the Mother board that is in use. My new PC that is a Gigabyte MB, has native USB 3.0/3.1 support. I didn't have to download any drivers after installing W10.

    And as far as plugging A USB 2.0 device in into a USB 3.0 port, it really makes no difference. The device controls the speed of the Port (not the software). Your statement " Never plug a USB 2.0 device into a USB 3.0 port either as there's a good chance that when a USB 3.0 device is plugged in later it will run at USB 2.0 speed " I have never seen that condition ! And as far as Windows 10 getting confused and using USB 2.0 is another fallacy. I've watched all of my 3.0 ports off and on with "USBVIEW", and have never seen that problem !

    But thanks for the info on "USBTreeView" by far a better tool than USBVIEW !

    I just wish the OP would post his configuration so that we can address his problem !

    Below is a USB3.0 to USB 3.1 perfomance copying files via File Explorer
     
    storageman, Mar 14, 2017
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  12. Hi guys,

    as to the Os getting confused, can I do anything to sort things out?

    Here are my specifications:

    Intel i5-2500k 3.3Ghz @ 4.7Ghz (1.4v) & CoolerMaster V6 Air Cooler
    Gigabyte Z77-D3H v1.0
    4 x 4Gb DDR1600 in Dual Channel
    Gigabyte GTX1060 1Gb (Monitor running @ 4k resolution)
    2 x 512Gb Samsung 850 Evo SSDs (1 for OS/Programs, 1 for
    Footage)2 x 3Tb Seagate 7200rpm HDDs (Exported & Archived Media)
     
    tententwenty, Mar 14, 2017
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  13. fdegrove Win User

    USB 3.0 card reader fall back to USB 2.0 speed on windows 10

    Hi,

    Taken from the MB specs.

    Have you checked your device on all USB 3.0 ports available ?

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Mar 14, 2017
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  14. Yes, gives the same issue. my other desktop with asrock z77 pro 3 also has the same problem.
     
    tententwenty, Mar 15, 2017
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  15. Berton Win User
    .
    2 different computers giving the same problem with the same hardware does suggest the hardware involved has the problem.
     
    Berton, Mar 15, 2017
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