Windows 10: USP Had 3 Pins, Now Its Got 2 Pins... Is it Still Good for a PC?

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  1. yahanna Win User

    USP Had 3 Pins, Now Its Got 2 Pins... Is it Still Good for a PC?


    I got a USP (universal surge protector) thats had a 3-pin connector. One of the pins broke off so its got 2 pins. Will it be ok to use to connect to many devices including a gaming PC without any power issues?

    :)
     
    yahanna, Mar 6, 2017
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  2. Skier7667 Win User

    Dictionary attack mitigation triggered; Device locked for security reason.

    As others here, I've had this issue with my Surface Pro 3 and Windows 10 Pro. About 3 weeks ago I could not log in with my PIN, had worked perfectly for 2 years, even if at times I had entered it incorrectly. Then I got blocked. Ran virus check and set
    picture pin. That worked., but I wanted the PIN to work. Read options, to delete folder in Windows/System, but could not due to admin. Changed admin, had to create a 2nd user, then ended up with two admin users and one tied to my Microsoft account and still
    no PIN. I don't mind tinkering, but this was too much. I finally thought that was way to messy and decided to re-install Windows 10 from ISO from MS site - a clean install.

    Everything worked fine then this weekend I got a new error - "The dictionary attach mitigation I triggered and the provide3d authorization was ignored by the provider".

    Tried to log in, tried to reset PIN, no good. Tried to Log in with PIN, - still no good. So I logged in with picture password. Plugged Surface Pro 3 in for 2 hours while logged in, then tried to change PIN, would fail. I then did normal Shut Down, tried
    to log in with PIN and got the same Dictionary error message. Performed the Shut Down multiple times - no good.

    Tried using the Picture Password, waiting 2 hours, then another graceful shut down and still no PIN access and not able to change the PIN.

    Last attempt -

    1) I set Surface to NEVER Shut Down/NEVER Dim Display when plugged in.

    2) Then performed a shut down.

    3) Then started it again, but left it on the first Picture start screen for two hours

    4) During the two hours I didn't try to log in with any method, just left it on

    5) After 2 hours I selected the PIN option, entered the same PIN I had originally set and I was able to log in

    Did not use the Admin Run - TPM.mpc - option - which I'm sure it likely works.

    My thoughts on this are exactly as one of the first posts indicated in this thread - to plug into power, wait 2 hours and try again. What was missing are the detailed steps in order to accomplish this. It's not just waiting 2 hours, it's how you setup the
    PC while it's waiting for the 2 hours.

    It likely doesn't matter whether it's plugged into electrical power or not. What matters is that the PC needs to stay on for at least 2 hours and not turn off. OR run out of battery power, hence why it should be plugged in just in case. It can't go to sleep,
    it can't be logged into a user. It just has to be on
    and the first screen prior to selecting a user log in with credentials is what it need to be on for 2 hours for the error to clear itself. If you log in, then it won't be in that sort of "Limbo" state. No user log in is the trick for the reset
    to take place and have that PC on once turned on to that first visible screen.

    This has to be something new (Windows Update) that is triggered due to more stringent security settings. Enter that PIN incorrectly, and it will lock you out.

    I hope this will help others that encounter this rather frustrating issue. I rather wait the 2 hours than toy around with security settings if I don't have to.
     
    Skier7667, Mar 6, 2017
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  3. Skier7667 Win User
    Windows 10 PIN - Can't Be Set

    Finally Solved It - First the Background

    I've had this issue with my Surface Pro 3 and Windows 10 Pro. About 3 weeks ago I could not log in with my PIN, had worked perfectly for 2 years, even if at times I had entered it incorrectly. Then I got blocked. Ran virus check and set picture pin. That
    worked., but I wanted the PIN to work. Read options, to delete folder in Windows/System, but could not due to admin. Changed admin, had to create a 2nd user, then ended up with two admin users and one tied to my Microsoft account and still no PIN. I don't
    mind tinkering, but this was too much. I finally thought that was way to messy and decided to re-install Windows 10 from ISO from MS site - a clean install.

    Everything worked fine then this weekend I got a new error - "The dictionary attach mitigation I triggered and the provide3d authorization was ignored by the provider".

    Tried to log in, tried to reset PIN, no good. Tried to Log in with PIN, - still no good. So I logged in with picture password. Plugged Surface Pro 3 in for 2 hours while logged in, then tried to change PIN, would fail. I then did normal Shut Down, tried
    to log in with PIN and got the same Dictionary error message. Performed the Shut Down multiple times - no good.

    Tried using the Picture Password, waiting 2 hours, then another graceful shut down and still no PIN access and not able to change the PIN.

    SOLUTION THAT FINALY WORKED

    Last attempt -

    1) I set Surface to NEVER Shut Down/NEVER Dim Display when plugged in.

    2) Then performed a shut down.

    3) Then started it again, but left it on the first Picture start screen for two hours

    4) During the two hours I didn't try to log in with any method, just left it on

    5) After 2 hours I selected the PIN option, entered the same PIN I had originally set and I was able to log in

    Did not use the Admin Run - TPM.mpc - option - which I'm sure it likely works.

    My thoughts on this are exactly as one of the first posts indicated in this thread - to plug into power, wait 2 hours and try again. What was missing are the detailed steps in order to accomplish this. It's not just waiting 2 hours, it's how you setup the
    PC while it's waiting for the 2 hours.

    It likely doesn't matter whether it's plugged into electrical power or not. What matters is that the PC needs to stay on for at least 2 hours and not turn off OR run out of battery power, hence why it should be plugged in just in case. It can't go to sleep,
    it can't be logged into a user. It just has to be on
    and the first screen prior to selecting a user log in with credentials is what it needs to be on for 2 hours for the error to clear itself. If you log in, then it won't be in that sort of "Limbo" state. No user log in is the trick for the reset
    to take place and have that PC on once turned on to that first visible screen.

    This might have something to do with a recent (Windows Update) that is triggered due to more stringent security settings. Enter that PIN incorrectly, and it will lock you out.

    I hope this will help others that encounter this rather frustrating issue. I rather wait the 2 hours than toy around with security settings if I don't have to.
     
    Skier7667, Mar 6, 2017
    #3
  4. spunk Win User

    USP Had 3 Pins, Now Its Got 2 Pins... Is it Still Good for a PC?

    The 3rd pin is a Ground. There will be no power issue, but if there is a power surge, it could burn up any computer devices hooked up to it.
     
    spunk, Mar 6, 2017
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  5. CountMike New Member
    Surge protectors relay on ground to channel surges in voltage, without it, it's just an extension cable. It may provide power but without any protection.
     
    CountMike, Mar 6, 2017
    #5
  6. Winuser Win User
    If it's the round one in the middle it's the ground. If it's one of the flat ones on the side it's either hot or neutral. I would toss it and get a new surge protector.
     
    Winuser, Mar 6, 2017
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  7. bobkn Win User
    If the surge protector cost more than $20 or equivalent, and you can use a wire stripper, buy a replacement plug for a few dollars.

    I suppose that if you were comfortable with that idea, you wouldn't have posted.
     
    bobkn, Apr 5, 2018
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