Windows 10: Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte

Discus and support Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; My computer was running fine (win10 + ssd +16gb ram + nvidia gpu) it booted at about 30 seconds. After i installed the creators update it takes 2 or... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by cachirro, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. cachirro Win User

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte


    My computer was running fine (win10 + ssd +16gb ram + nvidia gpu) it booted at about 30 seconds.

    After i installed the creators update it takes 2 or 3 minutes to boot *Mad i get a black screen with the circle dots moving and moving and moving...

    my keyboard has LEDs and i can see them coming on and off for 2 or 3 times.

    PC runs fine after boot, but this huge boot time is driving me crazy, especially because it used to be so good before this OS update.

    Can anyone help on this? Thank you so much.

    :)
     
    cachirro, Jun 6, 2017
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  2. Very slow boot time with Windows 10 Pro on SSD

    The problem is resolved. My laptop got quicker over a few days and now the total boot time from switching on, POST and Windows start up is 20-25 seconds. Disabling ULPS was the answer for me.
     
    Super Graham, Jun 6, 2017
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  3. Very slow boot time with Windows 10 Pro on SSD

    POSSIBLE SOLUTION: WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE DELETES OVER-PROVISIONING ON SSD!

    After upgrading from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 I experienced the same slow boot issues. This wasn't anything to do with what was happening IN Windows -- the delay was happening before Windows started, and continued after I rolled back to 8.1 (my Lenovo X220
    was not fully compatible). I realized that it must be something that had changed on my SSD and I finally found out what it is:

    The Windows 10 upgrade process deleted the over-provisioning space on my SSDs!! I had set up 10% for over-provisioning with Samsung Magician for both my Samsung SSDs and after the upgrade it was gone from both drives. After re-applying 10%
    over-provisioning with Samsung Magician everything returned to normal after around 24 hours. It wasn't immediate, probably because the drive firmware needed time to get its references set up again.

    If you have a Samsung SSD you just need to reactivate over-provisioning with the Samsung Magician utility. If you have a different brand you will need to re-activate it using the method you used to set it up in the first place. Make sure you have a backup,
    because any changes to hard disk structure are potentially dangerous.

    Info: Over-provisioning space is free space that an SSD needs to use to replace bad sectors. When sectors go bad they are marked as bad and the firmware uses sectors from the over-provisioning space instead.
     
    Michael Bourke, Jun 6, 2017
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  4. dalchina New Member

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte

    dalchina, Jun 6, 2017
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  5. me75006 Win User
    If you don't have an image of the current windows 10 (located on your ssd), probably good to create and save an image.
    (Macrium, Acronis software, an emergency boot disk, and a separate storage device)

    I might try a repair install, and see what that yields.
     
    me75006, Jun 6, 2017
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  6. cachirro Win User
    Thanks for the replies.

    I wanted to avoid re-installing OS, and try to find out what's causing this, why is windows taking so long to boot, what is he doing? why keyboard keeps turning on and off? looks very weird, and all just happened because of that update from windows.

    Of course i will eventually forma it if i can't find a way out of this, but the hassle to install everything again makes me postpone it, has this installation has just months.

    I will check the suggested threads and see if something useful is out there. Thank you.
     
    cachirro, Jun 6, 2017
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  7. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    I've never used it but there's some diagnostic software called "CheckBootSpeed"

    The Readme.txt:

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Jun 6, 2017
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  8. dalchina New Member

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte

    dalchina, Jun 6, 2017
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  9. zinou Win User
    Hello,
    The best way we can figure out this issue, quickly, is by taking a boot trace using the free Microsoft troubleshooting tool (Windows Performance Toolkit) https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/...
    Here is a tutorial on how to take a boot trace. https://zinetek.wordpress.com/2015/12/16/how-to-use-wpr...

    Share the boot trace, and I'll analyze it. there is a big chances we can find exactly what is causing this issue.. I use this tool every time when I encounter Windows Perfomance issue, it's very powerfull.
     
    zinou, Jun 7, 2017
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  10. cachirro Win User
    wow, so many suggestions, thanks guys.

    I'll start with the last one and share the my WPR logs.
     
    cachirro, Jun 7, 2017
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  11. kimkl Win User
    Same issue here my PC also has a ssd and boot time used to be press power button take 5 paces sit down in couch turn on LCD and PC is ready, but my agony does not stop there my HD's keep going to sleep (yes have checked power settings all normal) but now i click file explorer "window freeze" until my other HD power up, very very annoying.
    And now i get assertion failed c++ in one of my programs, last time i had that problem was with Windows 7 many years ago.

    I have some 25 years exp with PC i build my own cases, i crimp my own Cat 6 cables make my own USB cables so my knowledge is good when in comes to troubleshooting but i miss the days when i could just relax watch a movie without my screen going black or hd falling asleep.
    *Biggrin
     
    kimkl, Jun 7, 2017
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  12. cachirro Win User
    Hi Zinou, here is my report: WPR Files.zip - Google Drive

    edit 1: (adding event viewer info)

    Looking and events for boot time, here are my latest boot time in seconds:
    137
    151
    145
    142
    189
    ......

    edit 2: (additional info of driver issue)

    I also just found this driver error, i've tried the one on asus site, and another updated version from update driver context menu, but the error never goes away.


    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte [​IMG]


    edit 3: (report back on driver issue, fixed and boot time reduced)

    managed to make the driver install properly, googled some file from another motherboard (same HWID for device) and it worked, and what do you know, boot times have massively decreased:

    60
    74
    79

    don't know if these are normal values now, at least they are half as before, but i still see the black screen doing nothing for some time on boot.

    edit 4: (adding info about new event registered and sharing new WPR file after driver issue fixed)

    Also found this in the event viewer:

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte [​IMG]

    I don't have a c:\de file, but i let you guys analyze this. Here is the new WPR report: WPR New Files.zip - Google Drive
     
    cachirro, Jun 7, 2017
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  13. zinou Win User

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte

    zinou, Jun 7, 2017
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  14. zinou Win User
    zinou, Jun 7, 2017
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  15. cachirro Win User
    Hey Zinou,

    Guess you posted same thing twice *Smile

    About your suggestion on the driver, was not sucessfull, i get some problem as before, device gets an error, only this version works.

    About that session init, must be the time i see just a black screen. How can we debug it further?
     
    cachirro, Jun 7, 2017
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