Windows 10: What would cause a considerable speed difference between Bitlocker enabled HDD's in Win 10...

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]What would cause a considerable speed difference between Bitlocker enabled HDD's in Win 10 Pro 1909 18363.1440 and [/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Win 10 Pro 20H2 19042.867?[/COLOR]


[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]My Specs:[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]i9 9900K[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Z390 Master mobo[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]64GB DDR4 3200 cl14[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]GTX 1080 GPU - 2 mons @ 2k[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]GTX 1030 GPU - 2 mons @ 2k[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]EVGA 750 W gold GPU[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Win 10 Pro on 500 GB 970 EVO NVMe[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Windows 10 Pro versions and builds specific to issue below[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]2 TB 870 EVO SSD[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]5 Hard Drives:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]6 TB Black HDD 7200[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]5 TB Black HDD 7200[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]3 TB Black HDD 7200[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]3 TB Toshiba HDD 7200[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]4 TB HGST HDD 7200[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Hi all,[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]I build and maintain my own PC's. On my current main build I've encountered a problem where my Bitlocker encrypted mechanical hard drive speeds dropped very considerably after I did a fresh install this week of Win 10 Pro 20H2 19042.867[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Previously I was running Win 10 Pro 1909 18363.1440 About a year ago I enabled Bitlocker's default XTS-AES 128 bit, on My OS C drive 500 GB 970 NVMe and all HDD's. Afterward speeds were still fine maybe ~ 5 % speed hit w Bitlocker enabled[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Then this week I did a fresh install of Win 10 Pro 20H2 19042.867. Before doing the install I disconnected all 5 of the other Bitlocker enabled hard drives in the PC, just leaving the NVMe OS drive. I secure erased the NVMe, then installed the OS from an MS sourced Win 10 Pro ISO. The install went fine, no probs.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]After install I enabled bitlocker XTS-AES 128 bit on the C drive. So this is now 20H2 19042.867. When I benched the drive, the speeds compared to Win 10 Pro 1909 had dropped anywhere from 5 - 20%, depending on test parameter, test size, real world transfer tests. It's odd, but still not a super big deal as the NVMe is already fast and I was just going to live with the reduced speed differences I was encountering between the two OS installs, both with Bitlocker enabled.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]But the real problem was when I reconnected the HDD's. I used the same Bitlocker enabled HDD's that I was using on the previous Bitlocker enabled 1909 OS. I just shut down the PC, reconnected the HDD's, booted up, password unlocked them in Windows and turned on auto-unlock. When I went to test them, the write speeds had tanked.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]For Brevity I won't include all the screenshots of all tests that's probably 60 + tests including synthetic CrystalDiskMark, AS SSD & ATTO tests, and observing real world transfers in Win 10 Task manager and Win cut / copy / paste transfer window[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]But here is a couple examples:[/COLOR]

Comparison 1:

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]5 TB WD Black HDD Win 10 Pro 1909 18363.1440[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]CrystalDisk 1 GB Test Bitlocker enabled[/COLOR]







[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]5 TB WD Black HDD Win 10 Pro 20H2 19042.867[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]CrystalDisk 1 GB Test Bitlocker enabled[/COLOR]






[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]That's roughly a 40 % drop between Win 10 Pro 1909 and 20H2 Bitlocker enabled in both scenarios[/COLOR]

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Comparison 2:

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]6 TB WD Black Win 10 Pro 1909 18363.1440[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]CrystalDisk 1 GB Test Bitlocker enabled[/COLOR]







[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]6 TB WD Black Win 10 Pro 20H2 19042.867[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]CrystalDisk 1 GB Test Bitlocker enabled[/COLOR]






[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]That's roughly a 45 % drop between Win 10 Pro 1909 and 20H2 Bitlocker enabled in both scenarios[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]I could post more similar screenshots if you want, but suffice to say all 5 of the Bitlocker enabled HDD's had these kinds of ~ 40 % speed drops between the Win 10 1909 and Win 10 20H2 install. Again for clarity, Bitlocker is enabled in both OS comparison cases, same Bitlocker XTS-AES 128 bit method, and it's the same PC components. So this is not something that I would necessarily attribute to enabling Bitlocker itself. Bitlocker On / Off comparisons in Win 10 1909 gave only ~ an avge 5 - 8 % speed hit.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]And real world transfer tests bear out even more dismal results in the 20H2 tests.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Example:[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]On the Bitlocker enabled HDD's in Win 10 1909, when I would do a large file transfer, the drive would start with it's burst speed, often as much as 2 GB/s, then drop to a steady 120 - 130 MB/s avge.[/COLOR]


[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]On the Bitlocker enabled HDD's in Win 10 20H2, when I do a large file transfer, I still get decent burst speeds[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]for a couple seconds, but then the transfer drops to between 20 - 40 MB/s for the duration of the transfer.[/COLOR]

A drop of up to 80%

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]I keep current Win 10 OS images of all installs. Thinking this was an anomaly I erased the 20H2 OS on the NVMe and restored the 1909 install from an image. [/COLOR]Boom![COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1] Back to great HDD disk speeds as measured in synthetic benches and real world tests.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]In both installs Win 10 1909 and 20H2 write caching is enabled for all drives via Device Mgr > Properties > Policies[/COLOR]








[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]In the Z390 Master F8 BIOS I have always set SATA to AHCI. In the 20H2 slow drive scenario I decided to just do a test and switch to SATA > IRST Intel Rapid Storage but it of course made zero difference. So I switched SATA back to AHCI[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]Beyond this, I'm at a loss to explain this. This is baffling to me. There has got to be some setting somewhere in 20H2 that is managing or throttling the HDD speeds. My Win 10 Pro installs are standard MS sourced ISO's. I'm not using any of the new funky slipstreamed OS's that are popular right now.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba51, 51, 51, 1]What setting is enabled by default in 20H2, that isn't enabled in 1909, that would account for these avge 40% + speed drops up to 80% sometimes on my Bitlocker enabled HDD's?[/COLOR]

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BitLocker won't enable on Windows 10 after update on Aug 9

Hi Brenda,

I would be happy to assist you.

Before I assist you I would like to know the information below,

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  Do you have a Windows 10 copy of the operating system?
  

I suggest you check whether the Bit locker is ON or OFF using the steps below.

Can you verify if BitLocker is enabled or disabled on your device? You can Enable/disable BitLocker by going to Desktop and follow these steps:

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  Swipe Right to Left to bring up the Charm.
  
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  Choose Settings.
  
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  Choose Control Panel.
  
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  Select BitLocker Drive Encryption.
  
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  Verify whether BitLocker is on or off on each device.
  

Also I suggest you to enable the WinRE so that you can enter the bit locker key and proceed.

When WinRE is disabled, you cannot enable BitLocker, and you receive an error message that resembles the following.

This PC doesn't support entering a BitLocker recovery password during startup. Ask your administrator to configure Windows Recovery Environment so that you can use BitLocker.

The solution would be to manually enable the windows recovery environment:

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  Copying the winre.wim file from c:\windows\system32\recovery\ to a folder on a recovery partition. (The partition need to have a drive letter at this point.)
  
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  Set the RE Image path. Example: reagentc /setreimage /path r:\recovery\windowsre
  
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  Enable RE with command: reagentc /enable
  
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  (You may remove the drive letter for the recovery partition after you have done this.)
  
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  Bit locker will be enabled.
  

If the issue still persists, suggest you to post your query on the below link.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831507(v=ws.11).aspx

Hope this information was helpful and do let us know if you need further assistance. We will be glad to assist.

Thank you.

 

Slow HDD read and write speeds

Hi,

Thank you for writing to Microsoft Community Forums.

We will require a few more information from you to help you further with the issue. Please reply with the following details:

• In which device are you facing this issue?
  
• Are you using an external HDD or internal HDD?
  
• Are you getting the read and write speed issue on any particular application?
  

However, you can Disk Defragment on your computer to optimize the drive. To run Disk Defragment please follow the steps from the article

Defragment your Windows 10 PC.

Alternatively, you can check for the read and write speed of the HDD in task manager. Please follow the steps mentioned below to check the read and write speed of the hard drive:

1. Press Ctrl + Shift + Esc key together on the keyboard.
   
2. Click on Performance tab.
   
3. Click on Disk 0.
   
4. You will find the Read speed and
   Write speed at the bottom of the window.
   

Hope it helps.

Please reply with the status of the issue, we will be glad to help you further.

Nikhar Khare

Microsoft Community - Moderator

 

Unable to enable BitLocker on Windows 10.

Original title: Win 10 Clean Install Cannot enable Bitlocker

Hi

Trying to do a clean install of Win10 Pro on a new Lenovo M700 Tiny machine. Win 10 OS Build 10586.218, version 1511

Cannot activate Bitlocker. Run thru turning on Bitlocker, saving key backup to USB, encrypt entire drive, using new encryption, select test Bitlocker encryption, reboot, bitlocker fails: "Bitlocker could not be enabled. The Bitlocker Encryption
key cannot be obtained from the Trusted Platform Module".

Have tried:

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  Checked TPM.msc. TPM is recognized, activated, owned etc
  
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  Deactivated TPM in BIOS, rebooted, logged in, verified off in TPM.msc, rebooted, reactivated in BIOS, TPM.msc sees functioning TPM, still fails same error
  
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  Cleared and reactivated TPM using TPM.msc. Same error
  
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  Formatted and reinstalled Win10 3 times. Recreated the Win10 USB install "disk" using the media creation tool for 1 attempt. Same issue each time.
  
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  All Lenovo driver & BIOS updates installed using Thinkvantage Tools. All MS Win 10 updates installed
  

Any help appreciated