Windows 10: When FCC Kills Net Neutrality, Here's What Internet Could Look Like

They have to win... I wish I could do something besides spreading this to every network I have... I would call the congressmen... but well... if you see my flag is obvious why I cant... *Sad

 

This Net Neutrality did not exist before 2015, I had no problems with the Net before 2015 . I do not think Congress has the authority to over turn this decision. That is why it is going to The Supreme Court.

 

Hi,
lol nothing is free *Biggrin

 

Accessing websites are, which ISP's can now change.

 

As I am not US based this change has no direct effect on my net use.

What was the status of the US net access before this act ? were the ISP's all abiterilly charging for access to some or all sites.

The only sites that I need to pay for access, the charges are imposed/enforced by the sites themselves, as the media creators, the Netflix, and other film and music sites charge and there is a current trend by old fashioned media sources like newspapers, whose market is being destroyed by free access internet sites, to set up paywalls on their own News sites, Which I and I think most users avoid and use the free sites.

Also I think if my ISP charged me extra to access Netflix then the people at Netflix would be the ones to stop it as it would endanger their cash flow by raising the cost to the end user, potentially losing customers due to higher usage priceand all without without netflix getting their share *Wink

And I'm sure Rupert Murdoch would not mind if an isp made money off users wanting to visit his paywalled news sites *sarc

 

No, at one time Hulu used to be free. I do not have to pay anything to get to any of Rupert Murdoch's sites, MS even has a free app for that. As posted this will go To The Supreme Court, I for one do not believe it will have an affect on anyone, before 2015 The Net was as it is now just a tad slower.

 

I have read a lot of the predictions of doom and gloom that have been discussed here. What is being talked about are the worst case scenarios. I think, as with most things, we never see the worst case scenarios. Will some things change, possibly. But things are constantly changing. Also, as with everything else, 'The devil is in the details' which we don't know for sure. We have no choice but to just wait and see what happens.

I really have no opinion on this issue because I don't have enough factual decision to make an informed opinion. What I do know is until about 2 years ago there was no Net Neutrality. I can't say I have noticed any difference in pre 2015 and post 2015. I suspect I will see very little difference in post 2017. May Netflix charge more for their service? Possibly, but they would have anyway sooner or later. May an ISP charge more money to connect to Netflix? Maybe. But, if Netflix, as some reports say, are using 30% of the US bandwidth, some changes were inevitable with or without Net Neutrality. If Netflix uses anywhere near that much bandwidth, they should pay more. Yes, that will probably be passed onto us. However, if they raise prices very much, they will lose customers and revenue. So, I don't expect a substantial increase. Their shareholders wouldn't like losing money. In the end, we as consumers, will control the prices to a great extent. And again, I think much of whatever changes there will be were going to happen anyway. I noticed no change before Net Neutrality and I suspect there will be very few changes after net neutrality. I believe many of the changes we will see were inevitable no matter what happens. I just want to see the details. Just my 2 cents.

 

I agree 100%

 

Very well said.

The only thing I have noticed is my paid for speed of 15 gbits went up to 100 gbits and no bandwidth usage limits and no extra cost to me.

I look at it this way.

1. The U.S. government controlling things.
2. Or free enterprise controlling things.

On such matters I don't think the government has enough smarts.

With or without controls put on by the government my internet speed and bandwidth has always been what I paid for or more.
Let Netflex worry about Netflex, just like most all business's do business.

I will give you a example.

Rockefeller and Standard Oil. At the time the riches man in the country.
Standard Oil was broken up into many small companies by the government.
Rockefeller just bought controlling interest (stocks) and became the richest man in the world in his day.

Their are very few things the government does well.

Jack

 

I agree essenbe. It's not like the internet was a disaster pre-Net Neutrality, so it's not likely to be a disaster
post-Net Neutrality. Government controls often produce more problems than they solve.

 

The old Latin saying should apply here :

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

(Who guards the guards). I shudder to think who would be the arbiter of "Net Neutrality" -- the best form of Net Neutrality is to keep it us unregulated and as individual as possible --true people will make mistakes and get scammed etc but that should be a learning experience even if at times an expensive one.

In any case I DON'T think USA is appropriate as the "Police" here judging by the number of sites they attempt to block and Court cases on totally absurd issues. The UK is almost as bad - II believe they block more sites than N.Korea or certanly China. !! So long as those two countries don't get any near any process legislating for world wide use of Internet the thing could perhaps be looked at - but if either UK or USA have their fingers in this pie FORGET IT !!!.

The EU might itself be better --but only because with so many differing countries it would take them DECADES to agree on anything - by which time there might (certainly will be ) a totally new system rendering this topic totally obsolete.

As far as NETFLIX is concerned -- what's it got to do with ANY govt -- it's up to NETFLIX and its suppliers / aggrievied parties in the case of intellectual property rights / copyright not being respected. What on earth has US Govt any business poking its nose in to a private legitimate companies affairs for matters not to do with legal taxation, employee rights etc. Is this simply because Donald Trump can't control Netflix I wonder.


IF Netflix really are using 30% of US Bandwidth --then build more infrastructure - investors and users should pay not the STATE.

Cheers
jimbo

 

HI,
Good one who's guarding the guards *Smile

 

Pre-NN, I paid at&t for u-verse 50/5 service. My netflix subscription was rendered useless until netflix paid off at&t. They also throttled every wireless devices @ 50-70% of the bandwidth I was paying for. I have a long list of BS at&t pulled and imo they are criminal and should burn eternally. I've since moved to the only competitor available in my area with same services at half the at&t cost and am satisfied with the new service. With my at&t experience, I am in complete support of NN.

Historically, the govt deregulated Savings & Loan banking rules, the airline industry, energy utilities, and Wall St finance all which resulted in a cost of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. I prefer a responsible public servants.

Send in the clowns...
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My thoughts on this is If they are not planning any changes, why did they fight to have Net Neutrality reversed?

 

They are trying to reduce regulations and end all of the red tape.