Windows 10: Why does MP3 player sound better than computer?

I have an old MP3 player that I bought around 10 years ago, and have been copying songs to it from my laptop. Then I hook an audio cable between its headphone jack and the "audio input" on my home stereo. It sounds good!

Lately, I hooked up my laptop to the stereo the exact same way using the same audio cable. I noticed that the music doesn't sound the same when doing it that way. The louder, or more climatic parts of the songs actually do sound louder and have more "punch" when played through the MP3 player. But when played through the laptop, the sound is more flat throughout. I believe this is relating to the "dynamic range" if I understand the term correctly. Not sure why it would be different if both devices have their own volumes turned all the way up, and I'm using the same audio cable and am playing the same music file.

Are there settings in the computer that can be adjusted to get the actual dynamic range of a song when playing it from my laptop? I'm using Windows 10.

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Best Music Player phone? N95, N73, etc

The music quality on the N82 is very good.

So far i've found it to be better than the latest ipods, better than a recent sony mp3 player and better than a sandisk sansa mp3 player.

It also sounds better than an N95.

I don't know how it compares to an N81 or N91.

 

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Thanks Matt_t,



I was under the impression that the iPhone had fairly good sound for a phone. That it at least sounded better than the vast majority of mp3 players out there, including their own iPods.



I also heard that he N900 was in a few flagship stores already as a demo phone. So I figured maybe someone had plugged some headphones in already.



Ah why am I so impatient for this phone

 

Might depend on whether you've a graphic equaliser or sound effect of any sort applied. E.g.




Also consider this:




Are the copies of your mp3's identical?

 

Untick "Immediate Mode", and Tick the "Disable all sound effects" box.
Or Untick all the sound effects.
If you have a Spatial sound Tab select "none".
Everytime there is one of those version updates to Windows 10 it can change those settings.

 

I went into those adjustments and tried different things, including with the graphic equalizer in Windows Media Player. I also tried playing through VLC Player and had no better luck. And yes, they are identical copies of the same file. Ironically, it was on my laptop first and was then copied to the MP3 player where it sounds better.

 

I'll give this a try and let you know if anything changes. Thanks!

 

It sounds better because it is louder. In 2009 volume of output was reduced by law because people of my generation were going deaf (see New EU safety standards for personal music players for example but it was a global change).

You can improve PC sound by turning off any effects (as mentioned above) but the volume is still lower so your amp has to work harder.

Your 10 year old MP3 player sounds better (assuming the quality of the rest is equal and the digital to analogue conversion isn't actually worse on your PC which is improbable) because the amp in your stereo is doing less.

What you can do is make sure you've turned PC volume up to 11 and adjust to output volume on your stereo *Wink

 

It's not really just a matter of being able to be louder, as in simply turning up the volume. It's the "dynamic range" that seems to be the issue. Here's what I found for the definition of it: "​the range of acceptable or possible volumes of sound occurring in the course of a piece of music or a performance."

The sound file is the same. But you mentioned something about digital to analogue conversion. I actually have no idea if this is occurring or not. The laptop is playing the song from it's hard drive, and the MP3 player is playing it from its flash drive. Is the music being converted from digital to analog in both instances?

 

That's not what he meant. A digital audio file always needs to be converted to analog, else how are we supposed to hear it. *Biggrin Sound is analog once it leaves a speaker.

He is writing about the possibility of your MP3 player's digital-to-analogue conversion being of a higher quality than your PC's, although he doubts it.

 

Ah! I get it now. Well, if the conversion quality does happen to be less on my PC than it is on my MP3 player, is there a way to change it on my PC to something better? It seems like there's a download for everything these days. I'm not really familiar with what items affect my audio, but right now I have Realtek HD audio, and also something called Dell Maxxsense (my computer is a Dell). I messed around with the Dell Maxxsense to see if I could adjust it in a way to improve things, but nothing helped. I don't even know what Dell Maxxsense is, but perhaps there's a better version out there that does whatever it's supposed to do? Or maybe a better version of Realtek?

 

This is just my opinion, but you should start learning how to use "audiophile snake oil tweaks" such as bypassing Windows mixer through WASAPI or ASIO (Realtek doesn't have ASIO so you need an external soundcard (which audiophiles calls as a DAC)) to "preserve bitperfect digital transmission" of your music. See more info here: Audio Output Modes - JRiverWiki

In reality, those audio input/output modes are used when recording music via a specific DAW software , rather than reproducing music needs very short latencies to ensure that the recording and mixes are timed as accurate as possible.

However, the downside of these tweaks is that they're more sensitive to buffer underrun as the latencies are much tighter than the default sound mode. Try using WASAPI Event on your realtek and see if it helps making sound as good as your MP3 player

 

Whew! That's a lot to process, and I don't understand most of it right now, but I just printed out the page at the link you gave me and will try to follow along with what it says and see what happens. I'll let you know if I have any luck.

 

I have a recording studio. MP3's are "something less than full fidelity" as they are a compressed (digital) audio file. Consumer MP3 players tend to EQ and other audio "tricks" to make the audio sound better. Just like Beats audio headphones that are designed to have lots of bass.

In order for the PC sound to equal many MP3 players you will need to apply EQ and whatever else, depending on the sound hardware you have (and speakers or headphones) to get a similar MP3 audio response with a given MP3 file.

FWIW, I use 192Kbps for MP3 files.

 

I've used the EQ (equalizer) function in Windows Media Player to try to improve things, but it didn't do anything for the problem I'm having.