Windows 10: Why does Safety Scanner say Files Infected instead of Files Possibly Infected?

Discus and support Why does Safety Scanner say Files Infected instead of Files Possibly Infected? in Windows 10 Gaming to solve the problem; While the scan is running it says Files Infected: N. This gives the impression that the final determination has been made. However, upon further... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Gaming' started by Sean Cotter, May 9, 2024.

  1. Why does Safety Scanner say Files Infected instead of Files Possibly Infected?


    While the scan is running it says Files Infected: N. This gives the impression that the final determination has been made. However, upon further research it really means that N files are "believed" to be infected and a final determination will be made by Windows Defender at the conclusion of the scan.Why doesn't the scanner say Files Possibly Infected? This would be much more clear and will cause less concern.

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    Sean Cotter, May 9, 2024
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  2. Microsoft Safety Scanner > Files Infected count

    There's a bit of a UX problem with the scanner. As it is running it may encounter files that are suspected of being infected but indicate a count as: "Files Infected: XX"

    This suggests the files are infected and apparently no list of these potentially infected files are provided.

    1. Change the label to "Possible Infected Files"
    2. Write to the msert log the list of possibly infected files for further review/action.
    I say this as I let the tool run for over 3 hours, racking up over 20 "Files Infected". My computer was disconnected from the Internet during the scan. So I was surprised that the files in question were somehow "cleared" despite a lack of Internet connection.

    From the log:

    Results Summary:

    ----------------

    No infection found.

    Failed to submit MAPS report: 0x80072EE7

    Failed to submit clean hearbeat MAPS report: 0x80072EE7

    Microsoft Safety Scanner Finished On Sun Apr 30 13:20:56 2023

    If the suspected files couldn't be submitted, then how were they cleared? Which files were suspected?

    I appreciate the tool just cannot trust the results.
     
    JasonNeiman, May 9, 2024
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  3. KADXT Win User
    microsoft safety scanner showing same files infected

    Microsoft safety scanner keeps showing same 15 files infected
     
    KADXT, May 9, 2024
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  4. Rob Koch Win User

    Why does Safety Scanner say Files Infected instead of Files Possibly Infected?

    microsoft safety scanner showing same files infected

    If you're seeing these 15 infected files only during the scanning process listed next to the line titled 'Files infected', then that's a well-known situation that confuses many who don't understand how this, or any other Microsoft malware scanner truly operates.

    During the scan itself, the Safety Scanner displays this Files infected counter that includes all of the individual fragments of potential malware it has detected using the signatures contained within the downloaded file. However, once the scanning portion has reached roughly 95% completed (per the progress bar), the scanning tool (and most other Microsoft scanners like Defender) perform a 'phone home' request using a cloud service also known as MAPS (Microsoft Active Protection Service).

    What this MAPS request does for the Safety Scanner is allows it to not only verify that the items detected aren't actually a false positive detection, but also that the remediation (fix) for these particular items hasn't been updated or changed, as well as that the combination of items are truly 'active' malware and not simply leftover fragments of an already 'dead' or failed malware attack, which commonly occurs for example when a website file download is either aborted or fails to truly operate due to protections like SmartScreen filter or others built into either the Edge browser or Windows itself.

    Once the MAPS process is complete, the reporting and any remediation instructions or other items required for the Safety Scanner to finish its process are returned to the client via the cloud and performed locally, at which point the Safety Scanner UI displays a final reporting of whether any truly active malware was detected and/or removed, which in many cases results in 0 (no) active items having been found.

    If this no active malware infections result is what you're seeing, that's totally appropriate, since as the above description shows, the initial detections of 15 'Infected files' is only preliminary, so it's this final determination by MAPS that truly matters.

    Rob
     
    Rob Koch, May 9, 2024
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