Windows 10: Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist?

Discus and support Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; On my PC, there are no Xeon and printers. Why does Windows Update find the drivers for them as shown below? [img] 103870 Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by Matthew Wai, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist?


    On my PC, there are no Xeon and printers. Why does Windows Update find the drivers for them as shown below?


    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]


    :)
     
    Matthew Wai, Feb 6, 2018
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  2. Device Manager driver updates?!

    Actually, sorry to say this but as I said before..

    When I go into the actual device manager after having found the devices that ESET lists as showing updates for and then tell it to look and see if there are updates, Windows 10 does in fact find updated drivers through Windows Update and does update them.

    This was for a number of devices. So ESET was actually correct in there being updated drivers that were available through Windows Update but I had to manually tell it to do this with each device. That's a long and annoying process. As a UNIX Systems engineer
    this seems to be a very disjointed process to go through all to update a series of drivers on the system. So why wouldn't windows have a means to do the same thing either from command line or a setting possibly in the register that would also switch on updates
    for device drivers that there are known updates over what is currently installed on the system.

    Additionally, I don't particularly care what "windows" thinks needs to be updated if there are actually drivers out there that are updated for the hardware. There have been a number of things that had to be specifically updated for Windows 10 that never
    had any updates from the Windows 7 versions other than system generics in some cases. Some of the devices that I found actually had been updated to correctly identify the current device and match it to an updated driver specifically for the hardware rather
    than a generic driver.

    So, as I asked in the first place, is there a way to tell it to go through all the devices and force check for and update all device drivers against Windows Update that it finds when manually forced to do so one at a time?
     
    Rob D Andrews, Feb 6, 2018
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  3. BSOD error 0*0139 in windows 10

    Original title: Intel hd 4600 driver

    Windows update installs 20.4331 driver on my Lenovo y 70 70 laptop, while this driver is for NUC devices according to Intel website. Why does it do it and might it be the reason why I get the BSODS code 0x0139?
     
    MaksymMalovichcko, Feb 6, 2018
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  4. lx07 Win User

    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist?

    Your screen print is from WUMT? You can just hide them if you don't want them.

    WUMT gives me some strange drivers too (AMD PCI bus driver chipset for Intel Lenovo), same Xeon and Printers as you etc. I just hide them.

    As they aren't offered by Windows Update I guess WU must do additional filtering as WUMT and WU use same engine.

    What do you get if you tick "Selected by Windows Update" box in WUMT?
     
    lx07, Feb 6, 2018
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  5. Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]
     
    Matthew Wai, Feb 6, 2018
    #5
  6. Try3 Win User
    Matthew,

    Those two MS printer updates are for the built-in MS XPS & PrintToPDF printers. If you search this forum for the driver name shown in your list you will find several discussions about them - I did not keep shortcuts to them.

    [Edited 8 Feb - corrects an offhand remark I made before and adds some guidance for getting more out of the excellent WUMiniTool]

    As for the other hardware, take a look in Device manager, System devices. Several components whose names you do not recognise might be found in there [it is not a place you might normally look].

    1 Look again at your WUMiniTool results list. Hover your cursor over the unknown update. The screentip that appears shows Hardware ID: whilst Model: uses the same device name that Device mgr uses.

    2 Look in Device manager, including in System devices, for the device name you have just found [Model]. If you find it check its hardware ID - Device mgr, <item>, Properties, Details, select hardware IDs from the dropdown list [note that you can right-click & copy the entry to save a bit of writing]. While you are there, you can also select Device description from the dropdown list and copy the device name used by Device mgr to keep with the Hardware IDs you have just noted.


    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]


    In this example, there are several identical entries with the unhelpful name shown [Intel - System - ...]. So I noted the information from the screentip then looked in Device mgr, System devices and discovered that components I had never heard of existed and that both their names & their hardware IDs matched. So I was able to proceed with confidence. Without the excellent WUMiniTool, I would not have been able to identify the full name & hardware ID of the intended device without downloading the update and examining it to see if it contained any definitive hardware identification.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Please note that several users have found that Windows update sometimes / frequently / often identifies inappropriate hardware driver updates. Nowadays, I generally ignore what WU says about hardware and rely on the OEM's instead. When you have seen the other threads about the MS XPS & PrintToPDF printer updates, you might well decide to ignore those as well even though they are from MS and are about MS [virtual] hardware.

    Denis
     
    Try3, Feb 6, 2018
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  7. Helmut Win User
    WUMT is not a Windows tool, it's an alternative tool and by the looks of it a poor one.
    Get rid, you don't need it.

    Taking the two "Xeon processor" ones. I have those "drivers" on mine dated 2013, however when you look at the Device Manager > Properties of those in the Event Tab you can see Windows updates, last one was the 1709 Oct 2017 FCU, in there it identifies the processor correctly as Haswell.

    I suspect the update is just an updated list of Xeon processors you don't have, pointless.
    Windows updates is doing it's job, is this other updater ?

    The "printer" or virtual printer(PDF,XPS) updates have already been explained.
     
    Helmut, Feb 6, 2018
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  8. EdTittel Win User

    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist?

    When Xeon devices show up it's because that label adheres to one or more system devices, like the DRAM registers and PCIe controller from my i7-6700 CPU, for example:

    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]

    That doesn't mean the finding is bogus or in error: it's a labeling convention that's used for system devices (which recur across many CPUs, but which obtain their labels from the first one on which they're encountered).
    Also, I take issue with Helmut's assertion (sorry, Helmut!) that WUMT is "a poor one" (tool). I've been using it successfully for going on three years now, and there have been numerous occasions when it handled updates properly (or at all) when Windows Update itself couldn't find them or wasn't working properly itself. WUMT is a useful element in an Admin toolkit, and worth learning and using when needed.
    HTH,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Feb 7, 2018
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  9. Try3 Win User
    @EdTittel ,

    Ed, your level-headed explanation prompted me to improve the rather terse post I wrote yesterday [#4 above] and to include some advice on using the excellent WUMiniTool in conjunction with Device mgr to positively identify relevant hardware without having to download updates and examine their files individually.

    Denis
     
    Try3, Feb 7, 2018
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  10. Try3 Win User
  11. reddice Win User
    I get that two and they all fail to install every time so I have to hide them. I hide them but they do come back using the WUMT then I hide them agaain.
     
    reddice, Feb 7, 2018
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  12. Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]



    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]

    Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist? [​IMG]


    Do DRAM Controller and PCI Express x16 Controller have to do with H81 Chipset and Pentium G3240, which I use?
     
    Matthew Wai, Feb 8, 2018
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  13. Why does Windows Update find drivers for devices that do not exist?

    Simply put, there are two built-in virtual printers on Windows 10. Am I right?
     
    Matthew Wai, Feb 8, 2018
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  14. EdTittel Win User
    Yes, that's correct. I usually use WUMT to hide these on my Win10 PCs because, for whatever reason, they always fail to install anyway.
    HTH,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Feb 8, 2018
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  15. Try3 Win User
    Matthew,

    About "Do DRAM Controller and PCI Express x16 Controller have to do with H81 Chipset and Pentium G3240, which I use?" -

    As explained in my [amended ] 7 Feb post above, hover your cursor over each of those two Intel driver update entries in the WUMT list and a screentip will tell you both the name Device manager uses for the hardware concerned & what its hardware ID is.

    Denis
     
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