Windows 10: Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me

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    Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me


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    Brink, Apr 28, 2016
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  2. nt62 Win User

    It isn't.
    Tablet Mode needs lots of touch improvements.
    Text and file name spacing needs to be enlarged and spaced accordingly.

    A metro style touch oriented file explorer that included all modern features would be nice
    When using the optional tablet mode and start screen.

    As soon as tablet mode is engaged,
    All file names and controls should be expanded and auto spaced
    For large FINGERTIPS.

    Now, enlarging anything not with the magnifier crams and jams fonts to a mishmash.
    Touch features need to be larger than a finger tip.

    Everyone is not on board with this multi device synchronization entanglement.

    Using build 10240, it is ok and interesting but blocks animation
    running on the desktop unless using deskscapes.

    Also, in tablet mode, it limits WinTV to only partial full screen.

    I do not use deskscapes anymore so I prefer to not to use tablet mode
    with options to always return to the start screen.

    My system runs an animated clock as wallpaper.

    Found an interesting file manager that can be transparent which is not possible
    using file explorer without an addon.
    Point is, the 10 start screen is not a transparency, it blocks view of the desktop.

    Forced maximized windows did not happen in 8 and 8.1.1 while using file explorer.
    Store - Metro apps are full screen for touch - fingertip sized pointer controls.

    Maximizing an explorer window with microscopic sized text
    in touch mode Is ridiculous.

    Windows is not coded to auto space enormous enlargements
    without jamming fonts into each other.

    Using the start screen in 10 also does not allow for touch oriented side movements.
    Anything selected will automatically block whatever else from view.
    IMHO, the 10 start screen is worse than the windows 8 start screen.

    Still a fan of 8 and use it from time to time.
    Posted with 10240 on a surface 3 using free wifi.

    :)
     
  3. Eric_W_B Win User
    HidBthLE.dll - memory leak

    Any movement on this? I started getting huge memory leak problems, I think right after the big windows 10 update. The first one I tracked down was my network interface driver. An uninstall and reinstall seems to have fixed that. But theres still a smaller
    leak happening. Running poolmon shows this bluetooth driver is growing and growing in size using up all of my memory in a few days.

    I use a bluetooth mouse, and as you watch poolmon the size of the memory stays the same if I dont move the mouse, and as I start moving it slowly, the memory used grows slowly, and as I move the mouse faster it grows quicker!

    I uninstalled this driver and it reinstalled itself on the next boot, but that did nothing to resolve this problem.
     
    Eric_W_B, Apr 28, 2016
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  4. Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me

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    Anish A Kumar, Apr 28, 2016
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  5. Man, that Start Screen was the reason that I got Windows 8. I loved it from the start (Get it?) Once I had installed the free Classic Shell Start Button, 8 was faster and better than 7 in almost every way.
     
    Vince Massi, May 1, 2016
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  6. RWOne Win User
    I don't use tablet mode on my laptop, so no comment there.

    But the newest start menu is nice, love it. Moving notification icon to far right as well means with peripheral vision I can instantly see if I have any, I think we're int eh right direction, much better than the last builds, and 7.
     
    RWOne, May 1, 2016
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  7. Trust_No1 Win User
    I am not a fan of 10, and like others I like my Windows 8, I still prefer the old Windows 7 menu over 10 by a gazillion times. So, no brainer for me. 10 offers nothing that would make me switch.
     
    Trust_No1, May 1, 2016
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  8. Winuser Win User

    Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me

    I prefer the Start Menu. Especially the new Start Menu in the Insider Build.
     
    Winuser, May 2, 2016
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  9. I skipped over Windows 8 and 8.1, purely because of the start menu. I want my computer to be a computer, not some kind of hybrid tablet. I much prefer Windows 7 but I am reasonably happy with 10. Aesthetically the start menu looks nice on it. The live tiles embedded within a start menu that has similarities to that of 7 is a good thing. Live tiles look good and are helpful but not at the expense of the traditional start menu. I suppose the only thing I don't like is within the all apps list you cannot have sub folder categories. For example I have a few EA sports games. Under 7 there would be a EA Sports folder and then sub folders for each game title. Now they all show under EA Sports with all the extra things like web links, uninstall etc and it just looks a bit messy
     
    Scottyboy99, May 2, 2016
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  10. Not a huge fan of the Start Menu, but like 8.1 it can be easily ignored, mostly

    Just wish we had the traditional desktop as in 8.1, 10 in too tablet looking for me

    If the scaling of apps in 10 gets changed, then my views might, they are too large on my machine
     
    paulsalter, May 2, 2016
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  11. iamc3k Win User
    Exactly describes my thoughts on it, as well.
     
    iamc3k, May 2, 2016
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  12. JohnBurns Win User
    I really think it's great to have choices - I use the Windows 10 Start Menu AND the Classic Shell Start Menu alternately, depending on my mood. Both have some merits and some drawbacks, but it's fun to have a change of scene.
     
    JohnBurns, May 2, 2016
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  13. waltc Win User

    Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me

    Edit: (I actually read this wrong...sorry...thought you said you were still using Win7.)

    Under the hood, Win10 is far better than Win7 (Win7 is actually getting fairly long in the tooth, imo...Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me ;)) When Win7 was new it was by far the best OS Microsoft had ever done, but Win7 hasn't been "new" in many years. (Compared to Win10 it runs like it is mired in molasses, imo.)

    I cannot tolerate the the Win8/10 Metro UI and fear it will never, ever grow on me. But that's the thing most often ignored by people--in both Windows 8 and Windows 10 you can boot straight to the desktop and forgo the Metro UI completely and the ooooo-gly full-screen start menu and those hideous square tiles that take up so much room unnecessarily. Main difference between Win10 and Win8 in that regard is that while Win8 forces you to install a start menu if you want one (like the Windows 7-style Classic Shell start menu that is free and highly regarded), Windows 10 actually comes standard with its own start menu, again (like Win7.) It takes but a few mouse clicks to remove the tiles from the Win10 start menu (and they never come back) and the system boots into a desktop by default if that's what you want. Best of all, no advanced-knowledge tweaking required--it's all built-in the Win10 UI, standard...Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me ;)

    The Metro UI is so ugly because it is designed for a touchscreen--big square tiles that are mostly blank when displayed, etc. But in Win10, Microsoft suddenly remembered its ~1.5 billion Windows users worldwide who needed and wanted and preferred a UI made to interface with mouse and keyboard. (How the company forgot where its bread was buttered with Win8 is beyond me.)

    Anyway, the start menu is no reason to skip over Win10 because Win10 has one. Found this old screenshot to illustrate:
    Why the Windows 10 Start screen is slowly growing on me [​IMG]
     
    waltc, May 2, 2016
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  14. For 36 years now, I've been modifying Microsoft's OS's to meet my likes and needs.
    In DOS, I wrote an Ansi Color menu, to allow quick access to all the programs on the PC. And in those days there weren't as many as there are today, so a simple menu with a DOS Prompt did the trick.

    Then along came Windows, and things changed, and in some ways, NOT for the better.
    I found I needed to Tweak Windows for optimum performance and efficiency. To just run a rather simple program, you now had to support the entire Windows environment as well, so demands for more RAM and bigger hard drives became apparent.

    Windows XP was a huge departure from Windows 98, and many people railed against it. Me too, for a while.
    But, by XP Service Pack III, XP had become the darling of the computer world. It turned out to be the longest lived OS ever.

    Vista was supposed to be better than XP, but it screwed with things better left un-screwed with. Many folks absolutely hated it. Me too!
    Win-7 solved many of the problems and dislikes in Vista, and the Start Menu was enough like XP that most people accepted it. Me too! But it was larger and put even more demands on the hardware.

    Jumping over 8 and 8.1 right to Windows 10, I still have to go through a lengthy Setup procedure, pretty much as I've done with every version of Windows for the past 21 years.
    I have to first minimize UAC, install Grant Admin Full Control, show hidden files and disable hibernation.

    Then there are the same performance tweaks I've used for the past 6 OS's.
    (under the hood, Windows 10 is more like Windows XP than many so called Experts want to admit. The structure of the System Registry, is almost identical. And, many of the performance tweaks that worked for XP still work Great for Windows 10)

    And just like with XP, "Services.msc" displays many services that the average person would never need or use in a lifetime, so those need to be shut down. The "Black Viper", on his website, lists all the services for each Windows version, and which ones can be either disabled all together, or at least put into 'Manual' mode. Doing this lightens the load on RAM and the CPU and helps to increase performance.

    By the time I get done with my total Setup of Windows 10, the casual observer would not realize that I'm not still running either XP or Windows 7. But 10 can run faster, after some tweaking and tuning.

    I'm sorry this post ran so long, but, it's a topic near and dear to my heart and can't be dealt with in a single paragraph.

    Wishing y'all a great day!
    *Cool
     
    TechnoMage, May 2, 2016
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  15. In time then you will be left behind then have to pay to upgrade
    Windows 7,8,8.1, not a patch on windows 10 it has everything you want and still being added too
     
    hTconeM9user, May 2, 2016
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