Windows 10: Win 10 pro - lock-out, then complete failure - post 48Hr 'roll-back', post 'update failure'...

Discus and support Win 10 pro - lock-out, then complete failure - post 48Hr 'roll-back', post 'update failure'... in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Hello guys and girls … I am fortunate in having more than one 22 computers at my disposal, thus critical failures are just 'off-line' time issues.... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Dr.Richard.V.Finney, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. Win 10 pro - lock-out, then complete failure - post 48Hr 'roll-back', post 'update failure'...


    Hello guys and girls …

    I am fortunate in having more than one 22 computers at my disposal, thus critical failures are just 'off-line' time issues. Having a number means I do updates in blocks six to eight computers - concurrent x 4~6 hours do monthly preventative maintenance at the same time/session. As a rule, one in six concurrent updates will fail. Not usually an MS fault - rather transmission 'spikes' in the telecommunication source portals feeding the LANs. Like a static chatter on the car radio during a favorite song, only the IT version means a critical file/chain transmission/receival error.


    This issue involves a HP Z400 Xeon 3.6GHz x 40GB ram - running Windows 10 pro full, not upgrade - installed on the HDD - 1TB. Avast antiVir pro, IObit utilities pro assorted, HP agent & DNS jumper … as active TSRs.


    There was a problem doing the update failed, probably because of line interference or 'shunting' Node servers by telcos - not MS's fault. Not a drama, because usually it works if retried in a day or two and the other five went OK.


    It still would not update properly 24 hours later; so I decided to take the computer back to its "last good" system/driver shadow restore, two days before the update attempt.


    That went OK/well no problems or interruptions; however when I went back to start the Z400 after the process had completed was working on other computers; the graphics drivers had reverted to semi-standard MS 640 x 480 and it was asking for a password not the log-on PIN. {provided as a fault insight - I know you just type in the user/administrator password, then reset the graphics ... but it should not have been like that, so was the first indicator of dramas ahead...}.


    I have a set series of passwords/administrator passwords, designed for different usage and application risk environment specific. The "administrator" and "log-on" passwords for Win 10x HP, Dell, Toshiba & Lenovo machines are 'common'.


    The new roll-back two days 'password' screen would not accept the normal administrator/owner log-on passwords; nor would it let me use the HP verified administrator internet log-on.


    It should have reason that is there/for such instances.


    It would not accept the PIN, nor would it accept any other of my passwords or sequences thought it might have grabbed one from a PW file, and installed it in the wrong place during the roll-back.


    Next I tried to reboot into set-up intending to use a HP system recovery usb, or do a recovery from an external back-up HDD usb port; at which point the system failed completely.


    The HDD is OK, but will not boot to anything; thus the correct solution next try in sequence is to try a clean install of Win 10x from a usb thumb drive {because it cannot link to the net or HP's servers/LAN cards are down/off-line = manual medium from folder = usb boot and installer}.


    My questions/request for help are thus:


    1. "Is there a WWW page/place where I can download must be MS genuine, not third party a thumb drive Windows 10 pro recovery file/files?;

    {{ I think there is, but do not know where/url.}}

    or,

    2. not preferred as its much harder/time-intensive Is there a WWW page/place where I can download must be MS genuine, not third party ISO installer full?

    {{not a drama to download and mount to CD/DVD - on this MP350 GL6 dual xeon or another system - however the mount/burn means another hour of messing about - USB thumb drive would be faster.}}

    3. I assume a full reinstall will reset the admin/access password to default. If not - please advise?

    {{I'll be taking the HDD out of the Z400 to hot-swap it into one of the servers likely this one for disk integrity checking; thus can recover-move the critical non-system files and data; then reformat it …. however it is preferable faster to just leave the other data in place and just reinstall the operating system/win10x.


    nb. Were it not for Covid19, the z400 would already be in the IT department/techs and/or fixed; however were are all 'isolated', so you have to dust-off old skills and not be lazy … to do-it/fix-it yourself.


    Thank you in advance for suggestions and advice. Be well, keep safe and - importantly - stay happy. Covid19 will pass likely later than sooner, [12>36 months] but it will pass and things will return to normal. Stress and worry are more likely to do you harm than Covid immediate threat … so Be Happy.


    Cheers,


    Rick Finney,

    Dean of Applied Sciences, SYLVR.


    ps. For students … laugh all you like, but it shows some of us can actually do it - not just talk about it. Also Saturday afternoon, Dr Mike Brett and I were trying our hand at concreting a pot-hole in the carpark - successfully we think. If cars are down holes this week, we might have to reconsider. Last night I helped a neighbor paint a wall and fix some plaster holes … so the Covid lock-down provides the opportunity to get out and do things or try to.

    :)
     
    Dr.Richard.V.Finney, Apr 19, 2020
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    Having multiple bsod crashes including Memory Management, IRQL not less or equal. Also having failure to post issues.

    Have tried running memtest, disk check, driver verifier, repairing and restoring windows multiple times and cannot get rid of these issues.

    Not sure what steps to take at this point, have tried swapping out to completely new ram, updated motherboard bios to no avail as well.
     
    ConnerIsLegend, Apr 19, 2020
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    I agree 8 is awful! It's not for me though... I replaced a broken screen in a Win 8 laptop that was given to me and I am going to give it for free to someone that can't afford one so they can do homework at home. Yes I took it from 8 to 8.1 back on 10/09/2014. This is what I posted there...

    "Great post! I found a similar one. I would like to point out that you may want to edit your OP...

    1. Step 1 should read to disable AUTOMATIC updates, not disable manual updates.

    2. KB2871398 should really read KB2871389

    I would like to say that KB2917499 may also be needed as it was in my case. I also had to run the Windows Update Troubleshooter after installing those 2 updates. After these steps I was able to begin my 8.1 download from the Microsoft store. I don't know if it made a difference or not, but I also went into the Bios and disabled "Secure Boot."


    It was a helpful post. Thanks!
     
    BlackHawk1, Apr 19, 2020
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  4. Dave M. Win User

    Win 10 pro - lock-out, then complete failure - post 48Hr 'roll-back', post 'update failure'...

    Is Windows-10 Auto Update -> Failure to restart common? Any solution other than rolling back updates?

    I installed a legit DVD copy of Win-10 on an AMD machine that had been running for years on Win-7, but eventually succumbed to graphics-driver hell. Win-10 works OK (including graphics), but in the year or so I've had it, it has auto-updated itself into unbootableness 4-5 times. (It auto-updates early in the morning, and I find it unresponsive or boot-looping when I wake up.)

    I did a complete reinstall once, but the last two times I just rolled back one restore point. However, it looks like MS forces the update on me again after a few days, and wrecks my machine again. (Fortunately, the rollback doesn't seem to rollback user files, so it's not as bad as it could be.)

    Unfortunately, I don't know how to troubleshoot the failure-to-boot problem (it's not anything that can be fixed by CHKDSK), so for the moment, I'm stuck rolling the system back a couple of weeks, every week or two.

    My questions:

    • Is this a common problem that other Win-10 users are experiencing?
    • Is there some way to figure out what the actual problem is, so I can fix it?
     
    Dave M., Apr 19, 2020
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