Windows 10: Win10 Update Problems

Discus and support Win10 Update Problems in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; Excellent - just hope you don't experience any of the snags reported by some in threads here. Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by bubba6532, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. dalchina New Member

    Win10 Update Problems


    Excellent - just hope you don't experience any of the snags reported by some in threads here.
     
    dalchina, Nov 14, 2017
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  2. bubba6532 Win User

    So far, the only "snag" that I've managed to find is the disappearance of Asus Smartgesture from the startup programs. Without this installed, you can't turn off the touchpad via the function keys. The touchpad was continuously on, making typing difficult with the cursor mysteriously jumping around in whatever text you were trying to type because of my normal hand positioning. A simple reinstallation of smartgesture fixed that.
    The average boot time has improved, as well. From an average of 42 seconds while on 1511, to an average of 32 seconds on 1709. Not too shabby when you consider Windows and my admittedly bloated startup programs use just over 4 Gb of memory once the bootup is complete. I don't know how much of the improvement is from 1709, and how much is from cleaning up all those partitions on the SSD, but I am pleased.
    The upgrade also fixed a chronic problem that I had thought I'd have to live with. I could sleep or hibernate ONCE per boot cycle just fine, but the second time you tried it, the screen would go black, but the computer would remain powered up. You COULD NOT get the screen back up. Required a hard power-down. Not any more. Now I can sleep or hibernate as many times as I want per boot cycle, and everything works as it should.
    I've done just about everything I could think of to stress the OS. I've had 5 or 6 desktops operating at once with things like autocad, corel draw, photoshop, a browser with a big web download, VLC with a HD movie going, etc. Not a burp or hiccough.
    I am very delighted, and IMO, the work required to get here was more than worth it. I owe a big debt of gratitude to those that contributed their assistance, most especially dalchina.
     
    bubba6532, Nov 15, 2017
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  3. dalchina New Member
    Great news. But don't be lulled into a sense of complacency.. anything can and will go wrong at some point. Keep updating your disk image set for Windows and other data disks, and you may want to enable System Restore (disabled on each upgrade) - although it's not the most robust recovery option).

    Removing the redundant partitions created by failed upgrades is not related to your boot time. I find it takes about 13s to the lock screen, but then longer to usable desktop given a number of start-ups. I have just realised my RAM, being a single module, is only single channel- I'd probably get better performance with two.
     
    dalchina, Nov 15, 2017
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  4. bubba6532 Win User

    Win10 Update Problems

    Oh, I understand about the "can and will go wrong" part. I seem to be a living example of that in many ways. In some ways, I'm glad I had to go through this. It forced me to get an external drive to image the laptop disks. By getting one that uses a laptop drive, it was inexpensive, and it's unobtrusive. It works so well, I'm already thinking about getting another. I'll keep the images up to date.
    System restore is already enabled, and I've already set a couple of restore points. Any recommendations on how much disk space to reserve for that? Right now I have a fairly ridiculous amount of space reserved, because I don't really know how much space a single restore point takes. I'd like to reserve enough space to be able to keep at least 6 - 8 restore points at a minimum.
    Are there any practical reasons NOT to perform a disk cleanup at this point? I notice that Windows.Old is taking up a bit over 22 Gb of disk space. I can't see any reason I'd want to go back to 1511, and it's on the image, anyway.
    I was very reluctant to get a laptop computer after maintaining my wife's laptops for the last several years. The one thing I noted about most laptops was that they were SLOW. Eventually, I was pretty much forced to get a laptop for the portability. Even though I'm not really interested in gaming, I got a "gaming" laptop because of the specs. HUGE difference from the laptops I had been familiar with. I don't know if I'll ever want to go back to a desktop, especially with the new gaming laptops currently coming out.
     
    bubba6532, Nov 15, 2017
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  5. dalchina New Member
    Usually a few Gb is plenty for system restore. Best just to try.

    Windows.old should be automatically deleted after 10 days. (There's a tutorial on deleting it if you really need to- best just leave it).

    I've never had a desktop, but the upgradability and maintainability, + potentially better performance would be attractive.
    With SSDs, the desktop advantage of 7200rpm drives that used to exist has gone.

    Desktops can allow you to use more advanced architectures at the top end, for a lower price, and more capable graphics.

    For what I need, this laptop (almost fully removable back, good vents) is fine- I just don't like the connector layout- DVD drive and 2 USBs on the right, and a decent screen. I rarely hear the fan.

    One thing lacking I've come across- desktops have far more sophisticated BIOS options.

    CCleaner is good and reliable, useful configurable options.
     
    dalchina, Nov 15, 2017
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  6. bubba6532 Win User
    I've never had a desktop, but the upgradability and maintainability, + potentially better performance would be attractive.
    With SSDs, the desktop advantage of 7200rpm drives that used to exist has gone.

    I have a quad core i5 desktop with a decent graphics card that's now several years old. You're exactly correct about the upgradability and maintainability of a desktop. I used to think the performance was better, but now I'm not so sure. This laptop I've been working on is now around 2 years old, and it's a quad core i7 with DDR4 memory and a discreet Nvidia graphics card with DDR5 memory, a 7200 RPM HDD, and a SSD I added. The laptop's display is a FHD IPS panel. It kicks the desktop'a performance, and doesn't act like a space heater as it does so. This laptop would probably be considered obsolete now. Asus (and others) now have "gaming" machines with the latest iteration i7 processors that are readily overclocked, built-in video including up to Nvidia 1080 cards, multiple PCIE SSD slots (raid, anyone), as well as fast HDD's, multiple video-out options, etc. The only thing these new beasts seem to be lacking is a built-in optical drive, which your and my machines still do have. An equivalent desktop is a bit less expensive, but not by a great amount.

    One thing lacking I've come across- desktops have far more sophisticated BIOS options.

    You are exactly correct, and that is about the only thing I find myself missing on this laptop.
     
    bubba6532, Apr 5, 2018
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