Windows 10: Windows 10 Adoption Already Slowing Down

I was very encouraged to see your post. We have 2 Dell Inspiron 15 3521 laptops, and are holding back from the upgrade, in part due to seeing how many people have had problems upgrading Dells (ref: posts on the Dell forum). It seems Dell haven't been that helpful either, though someone on here commented that the upgrade constitutes a change in OS so an OEM supplier may choose not to support it as it isn't the original OS that the machine was purchased with.

Anyway, we're still going to wait for a while until early bugs are dealt with, and I will continue to enjoy my W10 Insider Preview on VM.

But good to hear of successfully upgraded Dells *Thumbs

 

I noticed my Windows 7 OEM install became Windows 10 Pro Retail. My theory, and that's all it is really. Is that once you do the Upgrade to Windows 10, the OEM is no longer obligated to help you with issues as a result on the free upgrade. You took it upon yourself to do the upgrade so why should they be left holding the bag if it goes wrong. I'm not saying they won't help you, some might, some might not and just tell you to contact Microsoft. It's their prerogative. The switch to Retail for me, tells me, I now call Microsoft for tech support. Non of the PC's/laptops I've upgraded have Windows 10 drivers listed in their OEM downloads support section. I'm on my own. The only Windows 10 drivers I've gotten are via Windows update. So far so good, no real issues for me as far as that goes. If the OEM wants to maintain good public relations, they will likely try to help you sort out issues. There may not be much they can do. It likely depends on how old your hardware is. If its fairly old I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for updated drivers and Utilities from the OEM. From what I've seen, they update the latest and greatest first, then slowly work back to older models. They may not go back very far either. Especially if the model is no longer in production. As always, YMMV.

 

Be careful about Windows 10.

1) Shares your personal information with Microsoft by default
By default, Windows 10 shares a lot of information about you with Microsoft. According to the company's privacy policy, Windows sends Microsoft everything you say to Cortana, Windows 10's Siri-like virtual assistant. It also collects your name and nickname, your recent calendar events, the names of the people in your appointments, and information about your contacts -- including their names and nicknames.
The good news: If you don't want to share that information, you can disable it.
The bad news: Microsoft has an incredible 13 separate privacy screens that you'll have to navigate through to shut off all information sharing.
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http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/tech...ws-10-privacy/

 

I think this to be a bit of take it with a grain of salt.
I have completed about 15-20 upgrades from Windows 7 Pro/Windows 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro builds on many different machines.
Some of these are Dell 6 year old laptops Vostros - they completed the process cleanly with no issues.
These are machines that come with Vista by default or even Windows XP.
I had the most problems on 2 Surface Pro 3's - they were a pain in the back side, One I had to revert back to Windows 8.1 and upgrade a second time.

Upgrades over the top of a fresh Windows 7 Pro install - with all drivers installed, no issues what so ever.
No downloads/patching, just built a Windows 7 Pro usb boot disk and a Windows 10 Pro usb boot disk.
Desktops/Laptops from 6 to 4 years old, even the less than 1 year - all good as long as all the drivers are install and you don't wipe the partition, had issues with activation doing that.

Installed Windows 7 Pro making sure the drivers were all good in Device manager.
Do not update Windows 7 - this had taken up to 3 days sometimes and with some machines I had to reset the Windows update with a batch file (wiping all the registry keys and cache to make it think it had never been updated).
Then just insert your Windows 10 usb driver and run setup.

As long as all the driver are installed on Windows 7 Pro you shouldn't have a problem.
Also I wouldn't rate the performance of Windows 10 Pro upgrading over a 4 year old Windows 7 build with a ton a bloated apps installed.

Try it with a fresh install - you may be surprised.*Thumbs

 

. . .OMG. . .look out it that nasty old MS coming after you. . .they want all your information so they can come and get you. . .destroy you, kill you, and . . .what a brunch of crap. . .please. . .really!!!!!!!!!!. . .*really

 

Thanks for the advises.

Unfortunately this particular 7 Pro system was originally upgraded from a XP. It's a first generation AMD 64 and with an very early build NVidia graphics card, self assembled and don't remember how old it is. Get Windows Ten told me that I had an incompatible video card, but I still wanted to try.

To upgrad to 10, I always used a USB which is more under control. It just didn't pass 3 times included one reinstalled the 7 Pro and immediately upgraded to 10 Pro but failed as well.

After replaced to the Radeon HD 5450 video card which cost me 30 bucks. It went through 10 Pro with no major issues. Clean installed again and everything looks good.

I discovered one great benefit was I backed up all those 7 Pro drivers. In 10 Pro even it upgraded okay after rebooted, but dose has few driver issues. After direct to drivers software from the 7 Pro drivers backup, those issues were all gone. This is telling me that 10 Pro does taking drivers from 7 Pro to work.

Thank you again.

 

Interesting.. and this is coming from someone who's using Xp.. an OS that no longer get's security updates??

 

Most large companies will wait . I do not believe they qualify for the free upgrade but I may be wrong. Many of them are still on Win 2k. It costs a great deal of money for a company such as GM to upgrade.

 

exactly a clear anti Microsoft rant nothing more than that

 

He was quoting from an article that does make scary reading !

 

This is perhaps the most worrying for me, Microsoft uses your PC and your internet connection and bandwidth as a server !

Windows Update Delivery Optimization: FAQ - Windows Help

 

People, don't panic that much...
MS is spying on us? Well... yes, they do, but not as you think, Siri and Google Now do the same, they collect data from users to enhace searches, just that. The thing you must be most concerned is the way they spy your personal files over Onedrive, and your emails... well... if that concerns you a lot (in my case, they can spy as long as they want, I doubt they even know spanish anyway...)

About the way MS pushes bandwith for WU... you can always disable that, YES, they shouldn't be doing that, I pay my bandwith, I'm not sharing that, are they gonna pay me for using me as a P2P / Seeder? Then I accep gladly so I can affor more speed...

Honestly, the only thing that worries me a lot, is the way they butchered WU and the ability to configure or disable it, it quite dangerous to leave that thing run on its own... remember those BSODS, Black Screens and the recent Infinite Reboot Loop we had to face with W7, W8.1 and W10?

I'm writting this from a VM, upgraded to W10 from a W7, And yeah, I kept WU enabled, just to be sure it works as intended... I just wait for the day I will disable it completely and start installing only critical patches manually, as I do with my real W7 machine.

If MS just returns the abilty to take control of WU, this really would make me upgrade my current OSes... buuuuut...

 

Microsoft has been doing the same thing for years....

and many, many people still love the company, and we use their software..... BECAUSE....

in many cases it is the software that we need....

 

Wifes cpu would not upgrade to win10.

Changed the HD, upgraded just fine, from win 7 beginner.

 

I agree completely. Some people are just too paranoid.