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Discus and support Windows 10 and NAS Linux based and Google Drive and Acronis True Image in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; Connected a windows share to a NAS Linux v5 Based Thecus N4100, N5500, N7700, and N8800. Google Drive reported the directory was not writeable. A... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by BootIT, Oct 3, 2016.

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    Windows 10 and NAS Linux based and Google Drive and Acronis True Image


    Connected a windows share to a NAS Linux v5 Based Thecus N4100, N5500, N7700, and N8800.

    Google Drive reported the directory was not writeable. A quick look and all folders had a black square in read only. Took a look at the security tab and the only full control was for the NAS accounts. All windows account permissions that Google drive relies on were blank and unchangeable. This is by design for Linux NAS permission in Windows. No I cant change everyone to full control..

    As google drive has no explicit NAS Linux account the only option was to have the NAS run in public permission mode. Yes google drive now installs.

    But it's not a good fix. Acronis True Image Home backup can not log into the NAS. It wants a Linux account to browse despite it being public. But the public NAS has no account! No I can not make a Linux user and get google drive to work.

    Someone suggested "this sounds like the old "aligning the Windows and Linux account" problem. As it sounds like a 2 decade old issue I'll keep it short. Why not try the logins aligned. That is if I login on my Windows as Sally, why don't I have a matching Sally account on Linux?"

    I can't align the logon as I use an email address for windows account sync. What a shame.

    :)
     
    BootIT, Oct 3, 2016
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    Hi,

    It seems that there's a response from TechNet regarding the case you're having about Windows connection to NAS Linux based and Google Drive and Acronis True Image. Be sure to check it.

    Regards.
     
    PreciousLeb, Oct 3, 2016
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    Windows connection to NAS Linux based and Google Drive and Acronis True Image

    Connected a windows share to a NAS Linux v5 Based Thecus N4100, N5500, N7700, and N8800.

    Google Drive reported the directory was not writeable. A quick look and all folders had a black square in read only. Took a look at the security tab and the only full control was for the NAS accounts. All windows account permissions that Google drive relies
    on were blank and unchangeable. This is by design for Linux NAS permission in Windows. No I cant change everyone to full control..

    As google drive has no explicit NAS Linux account the only option was to have the NAS run in public permission mode. Yes google drive now installs.

    But it's not a good fix. Acronis True Image Home backup can not log into the NAS. It wants a Linux account to browse despite it being public. But the public NAS has no account! No I can not make a Linux user and get google drive to work.
     
    dabow, Oct 3, 2016
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    Windows 10 and NAS Linux based and Google Drive and Acronis True Image

    Solution is due to Man-In-The-Middle attack - Win10 security

    Someone told me to follow this post

    https://techjourney.net/cannot-conne...in-windows-10/

    Cannot Connect to CIFS / SMB / Samba Network Shares & Shared Folders in Windows 10
    Home»Operating Systems»Windows»Cannot Connect to CIFS / SMB / Samba Network Shares & Shared Folders in Windows 10
    In Windows 10, especially after upgrading to Windows 10 build 9926 released on January 2015 or later, you may encounter the following error when attempting to access remote shared folders or network locations on a file server or NAS through CIFS, SMB or Samba protocol. The remote network locations or shared folders have been working all along, and continue to work and accessible for workstations running Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP and older Windows versions.

    \\Remote-Server\Path is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.

    To re-enable the guest access to remote shared folders and network locations in Windows 10:

    Run Registry Editor (REGEDIT).
    Navigate to the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters
    Right click on the Parameters key name, and select New -> DWORD (32-bit) Value.

    New DWORD (32-bit) Value
    Name the new value as AllowInsecureGuestAuth and set its Hex value data to 1.

    AllowInsecureGuestAuth
    You should be able to access CIFS / SMB / Samba network shares instantly without login.

    Update: If you’re using a Microsoft Account (MSA) to sign into Windows 10, you may also need to create a domain user account with proper access permissions configured in Samba or Windows Shared Folders on the remote server for authentication purpose, as Windows 10 may assume those logging in with MSA as domain users and requires higher trust level for security.

    The solution is to create a local user that had the same username with Microsoft Account (the L: emailaddress@outlook.com or L: emailaddress@hotmail.com email address) used to sign onto Windows 10. In Windows, you can use Control Panel or PC Settings app to create a new local user account, while in Linux, uses useradd, passwd, and usermod to create the local user account, set its password and add it to the user groups which has the access rights in Samba.

    Once you added the user account in remote server to connect to, time to add the user credentials for the network share to your system. To do so:

    Open Power Users Quick Access menu and select Control Panel.
    Go to User Accounts.
    Click or tap on Manage Windows Credentials. Or, go to Credentials Manager then Windows Credentials tab.
    Click or tap on Add a Windows credential.

    Add a Windows Credential
    Enter the remote server computer name as the Internet or network address, and then enter the user name and password similar to MSA created on the remote server.

    Add Windows Credential
    Hit OK when done.

    You can now try to connect to network shared folders.

    I was able to change the registry and now have security for everyone as Full. I tried to follow https://techjourney.net/cannot-conne...in-windows-10/ however the update section can not be followed as the v5 inux NAS does not support Microsoft email adresses as the logon ie hte @ sign is rejected as an error. So I can do backups but not access any files by Google Drive. Now I have found I can't access files using PaperPort pdf products. I imagine many softwares will fail as I use them!

    I am unsure how to remove email addresses from the workstations and what problems it wil bring. I have 6 user profile logons based on emails that move between 5 workstations.
     
    BootIT, Oct 3, 2016
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    BootIT, Oct 3, 2016
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    I am now using a local login nothing has changed.

    Acronis True Image Backup only works when using non public credentialed share. That stops Google Drive.

    The google account only works when using a public share, That stop Acronis.

    What is rather strange is that a post from google says some shares are not supported for google drive.

    Install Google Drive for Mac/PC - G Suite Administrator Help

    "Google Drive for Mac/PC supports only HFS+ (on OS X) and NTFS (on Windows) file systems. There's currently no support for network volumes (e.g. SMB or NFS) or other file systems, such as FAT32."

    I cant work out how the google drive works on my Linux NAS when the share is public.

    I am now thinking of putting the google drive on an iSCSI thin client for each user and formatting to NTFS so its local and overcomes share issues whatever system the Linux NAS box is using for windows.

    FYI
    How to Disable Windows 10 Email Login

    How to Disable Windows 10 Email Login | www.infopackets.com

    To login with a local account and disable the Windows 10 email login, do the following:

    Click Start and type in "user accounts" (no quotes); click the User Accounts icon that appears in the list.

    OPTIONAL: If you are signed on as the Administrator user, click the "manage another account" link. Then select the account you want to change.

    Your user account will be displayed with the title "Make changes to your user account". Directly underneath that heading there is a link that says "Make changes to my account in PC Settings"; click that link.

    If you don't see the "Make changes to my account in PC Settings" link, then do this instead: click Start, type in "change your account" and wait for "Change your account picture or profile settings", and click that link. Proceed to the next step.

    The "Settings" app will now open a new window. Click on the "Your email and accounts" heading on the left.

    Next, click the link that says: "Sign in with a local account instead".

    Enter your password on the proceeding page and click Next.

    Enter your new user name, password, and password hint, and click Next.

    On the proceeding page, click "Sign out and finish" and you will be taken to the login screen where you can login using your local account.

    All of this can be reversed if needed -- the only difference is that in Step 4 you would click on a link that says "Sign in with a Microsoft account instead". It's also worth noting that you can assign your Microsoft Account login to any local account at any time.
     
    BootIT, Apr 5, 2018
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