Windows 10: Windows 10 install / rollup amd64 18362.900.1.8 and 9 or up will brick pc if Qualcom /...

JPCSupplies · Aug 17, 2020

This week i got NUMEROUS pcs that all had package for rollup amd64 18362.900.1.8 and 18362.900.1.9 install in the morning prior to powering their pc down.

This meant immediately on turning their Laptops on again the machine was basically bricked. It would ether freeze during startup, or on a black screen showing a mouse cursor simply sit there with a spinning circle icon forever.

If you drop to recovery command prompt and check with dism, chkdsk, and sfc, the machine will show no errors.

If you attempt to remove the previous rollup using dism or the recovery mode remove last update option it will fail, as the update has been marked "not allowed to be removed"

If you manually using dism on console update to the next rollup afterwards that supercedes it which was the fix when the same issue occured in rollup amd64 16299 it will install sucessfully but the machine will still be unable to boot.

This issue previously occured when upgrading or fresh installing windows 10 builds between 1511 and 1709 but appeared to be mostly fixed with a driver update after build 1801

In build 1901 to 2004 the issue appears to have returned. If you attempt a fresh install of windows 10 or do a system reset, or windows update just decides to install without telling you the install process will brick/lockup the machine at somewhere between 20% or 89% - or if it gets past that stage by brute force, it will just leave you with a frozen or infinately booting spinning ball symbol on trying to boot into it.

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Workaround:

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The good news appears to be that if you power the machine down immediately on becoming bricked and physically remove your wifi chip/card from the laptop or desktop it will likely boot normally or at least allow the setup process to progress.

Once you are in windows, and have installed all the windows updates, it should be safe to install the wifi card again. Then if you update to a wifi driver version newer than 2015 there is a fair chance the machine will work normally again - at least until the next package for rollup amd 64 automatically tries to install it, or you need to do a system reset.

Not sure why Microsoft re-introduced a bug from build 1600+ that was fixed; but no doubt there was some fix that the ego of one of the programmers couldnt resist trying to do again

So If you find a laptop or desktop randomly brick for no reason other than windows update. Yank out the wifi card.

:)

stinger608 · Aug 17, 2020

Microsoft is moving to a rollup model for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2008 R2 ETC...

It was bound to happen!
However, this may indeed cure the Windows 7 slow update issue finally.

Here is a quick blurb on this subject:

As we previously announced, we are moving to a rollup model for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2012, and Windows Server 2012 R2 updates. These changes will take effect with the next Update Tuesday release, on October 11.

All supported versions of Windows will now follow a similar update servicing model, bringing a more consistent and simplified servicing experience. For those of you who manage Windows updates within your organization, it’s important that you understand the choices that will be available.

First, let’s review what we will release each month:

A security-only quality update

A single update containing all new security fixes for that month

This will be published only to Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), where it can be consumed by other tools like ConfigMgr, and the Windows Update Catalog, where it can be downloaded for use with other tools or processes. You won’t see this package offered to PCs that talk to Windows Update.

This will be published to WSUS using the “Security Updates” classification, with the severity set to the highest level of any of the security fixes included in the update.

This (like all updates) will have a unique KB number.

This security-only update will be released on Update Tuesday (commonly referred to as “Patch Tuesday”), the second Tuesday of the month. (This is also referred to as a “B week” update.)

A security monthly quality rollup

A single update containing all new security fixes for that month (the same ones included in the security-only update released at the same time), as well as fixes from all previous monthly rollups. This can also be called the “monthly rollup.”

This will be published to Windows Update (where all consumer PCs will install it), WSUS, and the Windows Update Catalog. The initial monthly rollup released in October will only have new security updates from October, as well as the non-security updates from September.

This will be published to WSUS using the “Security Updates” classification. Since this monthly rollup will contain the same new security fixes as the security-only update, it will have the same severity as the security-only update for that month.

With WSUS, you can enable support for “express installation files” to ensure that client PCs only download the pieces of a particular monthly rollup that they haven’t already installed, to minimize the network impact.

This (like all updates) will have a unique KB number.

This monthly rollup will be released on Update Tuesday (also known as “Patch Tuesday), the second Tuesday of the month. (This is also referred to as a “B week” update.)

A preview of the monthly quality rollup

An additional monthly rollup containing a preview of new non-security fixes that will be included in the next monthly rollup, as well as fixes from all previous monthly rollup. This can also be called the “preview rollup.”

This preview rollup will be released on the third Tuesday of the month (also referred to as the “C week”).

This will be published to WSUS using the “Updates” classification as an optional update. It will also be available via Windows Update (where all consumer PCs will install it) and on the Windows Update Catalog.

With WSUS, you can enable support for “express installation files” to ensure that client PCs only download the pieces of a particular monthly rollup that they haven’t already installed, to minimize the network impact.

Starting in early 2017 and continuing for several months, older fixes will also be added to the preview rollup, so it will eventually become fully cumulative; installing the latest monthly rollup will then get your PC completely up to date.

This (like all updates) will have a unique KB number.

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To read more on this specific subject and get links to other insights regarding this upcoming change:

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com...-windows-7-and-windows-8-1-servicing-changes/

I'm not sure if this is a good move on Microsoft's side or not.

What does everyone think?

CK011885 · Aug 17, 2020

Installing Windows 10 on New PC?

I'm going to be building a new PC on Christmas and want to install Windows 10 on it. I have Windows 10 on my current PC, which I installed upgrading from 8.1 with the files on a USB. How do I go about installing a clean copy of Windows 10 on this new PC? I think I recall something about installing it once makes Microsoft recognize your hardware, but since this will be a PC I'm not sure what steps I need to take. Do I need to go 8.1 -> 10 or is there a method of going directly to 10?

r.h.p · Aug 17, 2020

Installing Windows 10 on New PC?

I'm going to be building a new PC on Christmas and want to install Windows 10 on it. I have Windows 10 on my current PC, which I installed upgrading from 8.1 with the files on a USB. How do I go about installing a clean copy of Windows 10 on this new PC? I think I recall something about installing it once makes Microsoft recognize your hardware, but since this will be a PC I'm not sure what steps I need to take. Do I need to go 8.1 -> 10 or is there a method of going directly to 10?
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