Windows 10: Windows 10 or not

Discus and support Windows 10 or not in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; I have gone through the process over the last 3 years of upgrading my Windows 8 to 8.1 to Win.10. After giving this an honest try I uninstalled Win. 10... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by abe, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. ABE
    abe Win User

    Windows 10 or not


    I have gone through the process over the last 3 years of upgrading my Windows 8 to 8.1 to Win.10. After giving this an honest try I uninstalled Win. 10 and installed Win. 7 Ultimate. I realize that after 2020 Win.7 will no longer be supported but I will keep using it as long as possible. At which time, I am still trying to decide which way to go. I am relatively proficient with Linux and have 2 machines dual booted with Debian 8, but Linux in general is a non starter for me, due to the lack of commercial grade
    software available, yes I know there's a lot of open source stuff out there, but other than Libreoffice I haven't found anything very useful. I have Win. 10 Pro on one machine and it's better than the Home edition.
    Once Windows 7 is no longer viable, I really don't see much future for me with Microsoft. But I'd like to hear some input from
    Windows users on this topic.

    :)
     

  2. Windows 10 Unexpected shutdown on start up

    OK, so i figured it out myself

    Found the logfile in "C:\Windows\Minidump".

    You need the Windows Development Kit to open it and a bit of googling to understand it.

    Found out that a Daemon driver caused an error. Removed Daemon but this didn't solve it. (ps: Daemon itself worked normally).

    I let hibernate my computer again and found another error with sptd2.sys: SCSI Pass Through Direct layer

    More google and ended up on the duplexsecure site. Downloaded the W10 version and voila: problem fixed.

    For the Windows support team: It would be really helpfull if you could pass problems to a more skilled helpdesk who can do more than proposing the standard solutions in case those won't work.

    Cheers
     
    windows-10, Nov 25, 2017
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  3. Windows 10 Unexpected shutdown on start up

    OK, so I also found out that this occurs when sleepmode (for me after 3 hours) changes into hibernate mode.

    Seems like the going into hibernate and/or starting up from HIbernate results in a shutdown. In safeboot it works perfectly.

    Anyone any idea how I can figure out where it goes wrong. Is there a way to log this (I couldn't find it in bootlog)
     
    windows-10, Nov 25, 2017
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  4. Windows 10 or not

    By that time, Windows 11 will be out.

    Still enjoying Ten and the large amount of new features that were introduced since May 2015.
     
    MikeMecanic, Nov 25, 2017
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  5. Superfly Win User
    Horses for courses -- Win 7 is a comfort zone admittedly, btw for everyday stuff there are lots of Linux apps -- but that's besides the point. What in Win 10 do you not like?
     
    Superfly, Nov 25, 2017
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  6. ABE
    abe Win User
    Thanks for the replies. Some of the things I don't like about Windows 10, for starters the basic Home edition does not have a lot of features,
    The Pro Edition is much better, but of course not offered as a free upgrade from 8.1. So if you want the features you have to come up with the
    $$. Windows 10 comes without some very basic software such as a DVD player, but for some more $$, you can solve that.
    Some of the very basic functions that I use such as sharing files between my machines, works very well with homegroup and networking my
    machines together except I cannot share files from Win 7 to 10, it only works sharing between 2 machines both running 7, although my Win 7
    machines will bring the files from the Win 10 machine, it won't work vice versa. Since I only use Win !0 as a backup machine this is an annoyance.
     
  7. ken1943 Win User
    Plenty of information available about networking/sharing 7 <>10 if
    you take the time to look. I use a usb stick to move files only because three of my machines use wifi.
    There for a time I used to go through network setup on newsgroups with other people and finally gave
    up because many wanted to be spoon fed.
     
    ken1943, Nov 26, 2017
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  8. AddRAM Win User

    Windows 10 or not

    Stick with 7 if you enjoy it, I sure do.

    I installed 7 and 10 on my new X299, made images of both and I`m running 7 *Biggrin

    7 still Rocks *Party
     
    AddRAM, Nov 26, 2017
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  9. cereberus Win User
    MS have states categorically Windows10 is last version.
     
    cereberus, Nov 26, 2017
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  10. cereberus Win User
    Of course PRO 10 was offered as a free upgrade from 8.1 IF you had 8.1 PRO. It is an entirely unreasonable expectation to upgrade from 8.1 core to 10 PRO!

    Re. networking - you have not set it up correctly.
     
    cereberus, Nov 26, 2017
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  11. cereberus Win User
    You have made a spelling mistake in last sentence.

    Rocks should be sucks!
     
    cereberus, Nov 26, 2017
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  12. eLPuSHeR Win User
    I love w10. But I must admit you must set it up properly for it to feel comfortable. Aftet that, everything is a breeze.
    I remember to have suffered a lot of issues with w7 superfetch implementation. w10 has got a smaller kernel/memory footprint etc.
     
    eLPuSHeR, Nov 26, 2017
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  13. Windows 10 or not

    Regarding this: Win 10 Home lacks features of Win 10 Pro.

    What features of Pro do you need?
    Are you in a business/corporate environment?
    Need the ability to support large numbers of user accounts with a domain controller?
    Need BitLocker?
    Need Hyper-V?
     
    margrave55, Nov 26, 2017
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  14. roy111 Win User
    I am somewhat in your situation, i'll give you my experience with pro and cons on win 10 pro, i also hope that more experienced user can give some advice on the cons to us, also i do not consider using workaraunds/tweakers cleaners, registry hacks that affect how windows is intended to work:

    (I talk about windows 10 pro, i do not consider using win 10 home):

    Pro

    (better than win 7)
    Nice desktop interface, workspaces/expo(?) mode
    resizable command line (about time)
    File History
    Defender A.V.
    Hardware support
    Cumulative Updates

    (better than Linux)
    Vast range of applications that run in Windows, do not run on Linux.
    Hardware support (on new machines)
    Remote desktop

    cons (worse than Linux)
    Cumbersome exponentially increasing number of settings (and lack of documentation)
    Lack of control on features upgrades
    Slow, very slow or unbearably slow updates/upgrades
    Telemetry (useless for normal users since you cannot control updates on telemetry results)
    Troubleshooting nightmare, almost impossible for a normal user troubleshooting
    "Random" Vanishing of files and folders
    "Random" behaviours forcing to reinstall reset reimage etc.
    "Random" reboots
    Slow file system (ntfs vs ext4)
    Useful features are removed with upgrades, uncertainty on what you can relay for the future upgrades
    Too many feature combinations on the various win 10 iterations, an upgraded 1607 is different than a fresh 1607 istall making more difficoult/impossible to find information online
    lack of windows 10 manual (?)
    Advertaising features embedded in the system
    Programs (apps) randomly install themself (sometimes they also disappears)

    I would like to specify that i have no intention to spread false information, fake news, bashing windows 10, or windows in general
    i've used it, i use it and i use "linux" and this is my honest user experience and comparison between the two OS.
    I intentionally do not put a pro Linux section, to not give the impression that "linux will solve all your problems" it's a bit
    more involving than that.
     
    roy111, Nov 26, 2017
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  15. ABE
    abe Win User
    Thank you for the very informative reply, you have stated much better than I could, my own sentiments and experience regarding
    Win. 10, 7 and Linux. If I could add one thing more, it would be that Windows 10 seems geared more toward the tablet market and
    people who are avid users of social media, As such it comes with a lot of features that I don't need or want, it is also optimized for
    online activity and many of the features don't work well with people like me with a limited internet service and metered connection.
    The lions share of my computer use is offline, in the form of documents and photos.
    If good third party photo editing software was available for Linux, it would serve my purpose. I do regret that I never went with Apple,
    back when I started with computers.

    Thank you to everyone for the replies, your insight is appreciated*Smile
     
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Windows 10 or not