Windows 10: Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32

Discus and support Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32 in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; I was reading about Bitlocker and noticed this: Because pre-startup authentication and system integrity verification must take place on a... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. Oubadah Win User

    Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32


    I was reading about Bitlocker and noticed this:

    Securing Windows 10 with BitLocker Drive Encryption Microsoft MVP Award Program Blog

    On my UEFI PC's (on which Windows 10 was installed in UEFI mode), Windows created a 450MB NTFS recovery partition and a 99MB FAT32 no name partition. Which one of these are they talking about above, and does this mean that I cannot enable bitlocker because there is not a 350MB+ FAT32 partition?

    :)
     
    Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016
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  2. Saltgrass Win User

    Windows 10, Fixboot - Access Denied

    If you are running a Legacy system, there is no need for a FAT32 partition to boot.

    For an NTFS partition to be bootable, it needs to be marked as active.

    Still not sure exactly what you are trying to do.

    Secure Boot is a component of Win 10 when installed in the UEFI mode.... UEFI systems need FAT 32 partitions to boot.
     
    Saltgrass, Dec 10, 2016
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  3. Saltgrass Win User
    Merge EFI System partition with Windows/Main (C) partition

    The EFI System partition is and has to be formatted as FAT32.. So, not possible. A UEFI system will not boot from an NTFS partition.

    You can have something like 250 partitions on a GPT configured drive..
     
    Saltgrass, Dec 10, 2016
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  4. spunk Win User

    Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32

    You have a 450MB Recovery Partition, and a FAT32 File system partition, so you are good to go.
     
    spunk, Dec 10, 2016
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  5. Oubadah Win User
    Is that a typo in the article then? It strongly implies that you need a 350MB+ FAT32 partition for bitlocker on UEFI systems.
     
    Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016
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  6. NavyLCDR New Member
    You need to expand your FAT32 EFI System Partition to at least 350mb in size. I would recommend using MiniTool Partition Wizard to do it:
    Best Free Partition Manager for Windows | MiniTool Partition Free

    If you have the standard UEFI layout, you will have to take the space from the front of your C: drive partition (250 MB). There will be a small MSR partition that does not show up in disk management, you will have to move that over to the right, up against the new starting location of the C: drive partition. Then expand the EFI System Partition. Make sure to click the apply button. MiniTool will restart the computer to shrink the C: drive partition. The operation occurring when the computer reboots will look scary, but don't worry about it, it will do what it is supposed to do.
     
    NavyLCDR, Dec 10, 2016
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  7. Oubadah Win User
    Why doesn't the Windows 10 installer do that in the first place?
     
    Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016
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  8. NavyLCDR New Member

    Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32

    I don't know, I don't work for Microsoft.
     
    NavyLCDR, Dec 10, 2016
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  9. Berton Win User
    Mine was done at the install of Win10, new OEM computer from ASUS with a new clean Toshiba HDD. Upgrades from Win7 w/SP1 or Win8.1 may be a different story.
     
    Berton, Dec 10, 2016
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  10. Oubadah Win User
    Mine are clean installs from the windows 10 AU ISO. It's always: 450MB NTFS (recovery) -> 99MB FAT32 (system) ->16MB (MSR) -> C:\.

    Apparently the recovery partition is wrong too, because if you perform an AU upgrade on a pre-AU installation (which used the same partition structure above), it will generate a new 800MB+ recovery partition at the end of the drive (and the end of the drive is where it's supposed to be according to this article: UEFI/GPT-based hard drive partitions).

    So the Windows installer:
    - Makes an undersized system partition, too small to allow one of it's key features to work.
    - Puts the recovery partition in the wrong position.
    - Makes the recovery partition too small so that it has to be re-made during build updates.

    Great
     
    Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016
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  11. Oubadah Win User
    I think that article I referred to in the OP is wrong. I'm having a hard time finding other sources that say Bitlocker needs a 350MB system partition. This page, dated 5/4/2016, says 100MB minimum. BitLocker Drive Encryption
     
    Oubadah, Dec 10, 2016
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  12. cereberus Win User
    Bitlocker does not work on Home of course.
     
    cereberus, Dec 10, 2016
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  13. topgundcp Win User

    Windows 10 System Partition Requirement UEFI - NTFS or FAT32

    IMHO, both articles are misleading. Don't know where he get 350MB, the 2nd article talks about MBR disk. Your Windows installation is correct using GPT partition scheme, you don't need to resize anything. Post #2 is correctly stated provided that the version of Windows 10 you have is PRO.
     
    topgundcp, Apr 4, 2018
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