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Discus and support Windows 10 WiFi sense... in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; I did disable this in Windows 10, nonetheless, this is what shows up in the "AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl" file, located in the... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by Cr00zng, Mar 2, 2016.

  1. Cr00zng Win User

    Windows 10 WiFi sense...


    I did disable this in Windows 10, nonetheless, this is what shows up in the "AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl" file, located in the "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\" folder:
    Code: I n t e l ( R ) C e n t r i n o ( R ) U l t i m a t e - N 6 3 0 0 A G N A u t o m a t i c c o n n e c t i o n w i t h a p r o f i l e "SSID twice*" I n f r a s t r u c t u r e 8 0 2 . 1 1 n W P A 2 - P e r s o n a l A E S "seemingly encrypted text and/or machine language characters*"[/QUOTE][/quote] *-Actual WiFi connection data removed

    What's the purpose of this data collection and is it transferred to MS via the "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry" service?

    :)
     
    Cr00zng, Mar 2, 2016
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  2. mlg63 Win User
    mlg63, Mar 2, 2016
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  3. How can I make Windows Mobile 10 automatically turn Wi-Fi on in certain locations

    Hi Jad,

    We'd love to help.

    Yes, it's still possible for Windows 10 through WiFi Sense. For more information, click
    About Wi-Fi Sense.

    Keep us updated.

    Regards.
     
    Rommel Diw, Mar 2, 2016
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  4. sml156 Win User

    Windows 10 WiFi sense...

    Source: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...dnt-be-scared/
     
    sml156, Mar 2, 2016
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  5. Cr00zng Win User
    If asking a question is "scaremongering", then guilty as charged...*sarc

    Quote from the same article (dated 07.29.16) you've referenced:

    *-You think?

    I did turn off WiFi Sense during installation and double checked after installation; yet MS still seemingly collects the WiFi information. Why does the "Settings" have an interface to disable WiFi Sense, and it is disabled, but MS keeps collecting the information?

    I'll rename my SSID as "mynetwork_buzz_off_MS_optout", that's not an issue, but why do I need to do that, when the GUI allegedly has the same settings available? Or even doing so, will MS still collects and uploads SSID and the pre-shared key, regardless of adding the "_optout"?

    Based on what the GUI based setting results were, the answer could easily be yes...
     
    Cr00zng, Mar 2, 2016
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  6. TairikuOkami, Mar 2, 2016
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  7. Cr00zng Win User
    Thanks TairikuOkami...

    Are there other listeners that collect WiFi connection information?

    I did a registry search for my SSID, doing so identified an entry that the admin account has no access to:
    Code: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WcmSvc\wifinetworkmanager\SharedProfiles][/quote] Trying to access the "SharedProfiles" pops up this window:


    Windows 10 WiFi sense... [​IMG]


    Looking at the property pops up a different windows:


    Windows 10 WiFi sense... [​IMG]


    The advance property setting does not identify the current owner for this registry folder, but the admin can change the ownership. While it's unlikely that taking ownership would break W10, I'll do a backup first sometimes this weekend...

    Presumably, this is the registry folder where the local WiFi connection details are stored, in addition to any other WiFi connections that friends had shared.

    There are other registry entries accessible for my SSID in the registry that stores:
    • the SSID name
    • seemingly the preshared key, encrypted, for WPA2 based encryption
    • MAC address of the access point, SSID in question
    That's perfectly fine, as long as this information stays local on the system in question. On the other hand, uploading this information to the cloud and sharing decided by MS is questionable in my view...
     
    Cr00zng, Mar 3, 2016
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  8. Windows 10 WiFi sense...

    I have it disabled...not out of security concerns, but because I see no purpose in the feature. I don't use the built-in Contacts list, nor do I have any need to share WiFi info with friends, not personally or in the professional world. It's a pointless feature with a one-click disable, so that's how and why mine is set.
     
    DeaconFrost, Mar 3, 2016
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  9. Cr00zng Win User
    The point was that the one-click disable does not disable WiFi Sense; the system will continue collecting/uploading WiFi connection data, unless the "_optout" added to the SSID name.

    Makes me wonder how many one-click disable behave the same way in W10 as WiFi Sense does...
     
    Cr00zng, Mar 4, 2016
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  10. I also disable Autologger's WiFiSession and WiFiTask (in Windows Scheduled Tasks), not to mention SQM and such.
    WiFi works just fine without all those "bonuses", as well as without all network protocols, except IPv4 of course.
     
    TairikuOkami, Mar 4, 2016
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  11. Cr00zng Win User
    Thanks TairikuOkami...

    I did find the WifiTask schedule, but the other two were not there, maybe they were disabled earlier during my researches/system setting changes on the subject... And yes, the WiFi works just fine without them...

    The SSID and preshared key had been changed for this laptop, there's no SSID showing up in the logs now. Also granted access to the "SharedProfiles" registry folder, it had no keys in the this folder.

    Time permitting, I'll look at other MS scheduled tasks, like the "OfficeTelemetryAgentLogOn" and "OfficeTelemetryAgentFallBack" tasks that had been disabled already. And yes, MS Office works just fine...
     
    Cr00zng, Apr 5, 2018
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