Windows 10: Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup

Discus and support Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup in Windows 10 Backup and Restore to solve the problem; Hi, Assuming nothing important is in the Recycle Bin, you could empty that. But what are alle these $$Pending files about that are there for over... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Backup and Restore' started by Ocman76, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. fdegrove Win User

    Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup


    Hi,

    Assuming nothing important is in the Recycle Bin, you could empty that.

    But what are alle these $$Pending files about that are there for over more than a year if I may ask ?

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
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  2. topgundcp Win User

    Did you by any chance move ProgramData/Programs Files folders from your Windows OS to this drive ?. What I saw there is you have 2 folder called: Program Data + Files and Other Programs. According to this link:
    http://earthwithsun.com/questions/52...f-pendingfiles
    You have a folder $$pendingfiles. This might be the cause.
     
    topgundcp, Oct 18, 2015
    #17
  3. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Looks as if Link Shell Extension was used (or similar tool). Probably under Win 7.

    That explains why Windows Backup wants to include it into the backup job if this WIN10 install is an upgrade install.

    Excellent find BTW, topgundcp. *Cool

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
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  4. Ocman76 Win User

    Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup

    I am now quite confused. I did have windows 7 previously and did an upgrade install to window 10. However I have no idea what "Link Shell Extension" is and as far as I know I have never moved any programs from my main OS drive to my secondary HDD. When I had windows 7 I installed a lot of programs on my secondary HDD but have never moved anything there from another drive with the exception of the storage of windows live mail emails.

    What does this all mean? How do I get windows to unrecognize my drive as "System"? I just tried removing the $$pendingfiles and rebooting but it didn't change anything.
     
    Ocman76, Oct 18, 2015
    #19
  5. NavyLCDR New Member
    Ummm.... if the first step is going to be to use Macrium Reflect - why not just use Macrium Reflect to make the system image with and save all those subsequent steps?
     
    NavyLCDR, Oct 18, 2015
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  6. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Because, as I understand it, TS wants to use Windows Backup as his primary backup tool.

    Not saying that's what it is but it sure looks like it and explains your problem too.

    Here's an explanation of what hardlinking is:

    http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinks...l#introduction

    The shell extension is just something to ease the entire process.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
    #21
  7. NavyLCDR New Member
    Hmmm....well if you have to use a second backup tool to make the first backup tool work.....seems kind of pointless to me....but I'm a KISS type of guy myself, Keep It Simple...
     
    NavyLCDR, Oct 18, 2015
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  8. fdegrove Win User

    Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup

    Hi,

    It's just to sidestep a problem TS is having with Windows Backup insisting on including his secondary drive in the system backup, something he does not want and is trying to figure out why Windows Backup insists on doing so.
    As are we for that matter.
    Hence Macrium to backup and then clean that disk so it will no longer be included in the system backup set.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
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  9. topgundcp Win User
    May I suggest to open the case and swap the sata cables between G: & C: drives so that Windows OS will be on disk 0. Also make sure that you set the Windows OS drive to be first boot priority in BIOS.
     
    topgundcp, Oct 18, 2015
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  10. Ocman76 Win User
    If I were to do this, wouldn't I have the same problem after restoring my secondary HDD back to its original state? If I wanted to make another newer backup at a later time, windows would still recognize my secondary HDD as system wouldn't it?

    And to address another matter, yes I would prefer to use the built in windows backup rather than a third party software. Sorry if that seems like the wrong choice. If I have to keep troubleshooting windows backup for a couple more days I will probably give up and switch to a third party software.
     
    Ocman76, Oct 18, 2015
    #25
  11. Ocman76 Win User
    Done and done. No change... *Sad
     
    Ocman76, Oct 18, 2015
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  12. topgundcp Win User
    Thanks. At least we try for a possible cause. From Admin Command Prompt:
    • diskpart
    • select disk 1 ===> should be G: drive now.
    • list partition
    • exit

    What Type does it show for the partitions ?
     
    topgundcp, Oct 18, 2015
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  13. fdegrove Win User

    Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup

    Hi,

    Not necessarily, you cleared the disk using diskpart, remember ? If some of the files you have on there are actually part of the OS and go missing because the disk was wiped clean then Windows will start complaining, that's for sure.
    But at least then we know what to do to fix it and from what I've seen on that D: drive these ar not essential files as far as Windows is concerned.
    When the hardlink to the second drive is broken Windows will try to recreate the folder(s) locally.
    Not that I'd bank on it but I know it is capable of doing so.

    All this and what topgundcp is asking you to check serves the same goal really. We need to find out which is which before advising any further.

    You do not want the OS spread across several disks I presume, right ? *Wink *sarc

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
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  14. Ocman76 Win User
    Windows 10 wrongly labels my secondary HDD as "System" in backup [​IMG]
     
    Ocman76, Oct 18, 2015
    #29
  15. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    So it's not the disk itself it's what's stored on it that Win Backup sees as part of the system.

    On your d: drive there's a folder called "Program Data + Files". Do you mind taking another screenshot with that folder expanded and "other programs" as well while you're at it ?

    Thanks.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 18, 2015
    #30
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