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  1. Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage


    Hello,Windows 11 is using significantly more RAM than Windows 10 despite Task Manager showing little usage by programs and services. After shutting down everything non-essential, such as OneDrive and all user programs/services, Windows is showing 4.5GB of RAM used out of 8GB available while Task Manager is showing roughly 500MB usage at the most. If this were just RAM optimization, I would understand, but it has made Windows 11 unusable. I consistently get out of memory errors when trying to open new browser tabs, compile programs, or other short, sudden, ram intensive operations. They are not

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    bruxillensis, Mar 6, 2022
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  2. AnthonyTraber, Mar 6, 2022
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  3. RAM usage extremely high and source undetectable

    First of all, thank you for your response.

    Second, the solutions you've given me, all relate to either the source of the issue being visible in task manager or they are solutions to bad RAM. Only the first one actually relates to the source of the high RAM usage not being visible in task manager,
    but for me, the source is not even visible in poolmon.

    Also, I find it very peculiar that it says my user account is only using 1 GB of RAM the last time I checked and the system was using 4 GB of RAM.

    So, I would be very if you would further help me locate the source of my high RAM usage.
     
    Kelvin Bouma, Mar 6, 2022
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  4. bumgarb42 Win User

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage

    Extremely High RAM utilization, high Paged Pool

    The issue started in mid-February when I received multiple warnings and critical alerts from my RMM software for several PCs I administer - the RMMs settings for RAM alerts are a warning at 85% and critical at 90%.
    All of these systems have been deployed for over 2 years and I've never had any of them give high memory alerts before. Now, of the 12 PCs in the office, 10 PCs are going to critical alert with the RAM use slowly creeping up over a 4+ day period. The users are complaining of the PCs becoming slow, lagging, or unresponsive. A reboot tends to make the PC usable again until the RAM gets critical again.


    Image 1 is RMM metrics from a users PC showing RAM (purple line) before the issues started, and after February 12th, the RAM creeping to +90% after the issues started
    Image 2 is a current image of the RMM metrics for the last month


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]



    To make the issue more obvious, here is an image from our conference room Intel NUC, that is idle most of the time. I know that the spikes are the right side are while the PC was mostly idle and I was rebooting the PC to get the RAM to drop:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    To help you understand some of the things I have tried, here are samples of the alerts I got from my RMM software:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]



    As I mentioned above, I have 10 PCs, some are idle, having this issue. I have 2 actively used PCs that are NOT having the issue. In trying to troubleshoot, I have basically compared the idle systems with the issue to the 2 active user PCs that are not having the issue.
    Here are images from Process Explorer, Task Manager and RAMMAP from an idle system that is having the issue:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Initially seeing epsecurityservice at the top of Process Explorer and in the RMM alert, I thought BitDefender Endpoint Security (GravityZone) was the issue. I applied a “disable” policy to BitDefender on an idle system and the issue did seem to stop after a reboot.

    HOWEVER, seeing svchost in the list, I also tried a Clean Boot, but disabled everything EXCEPT BitDefender and my RMM software so I could continue to connect to the system.

    Again, the issue seemed to stop with a Clean Boot and BitDefender still enabled.

    So I compared Process Explorer metrics for a system with the issue and one that doesn’t have the issue and found that epsecurityservice.exe had roughly the same RAM use between the two systems… and the numbers were not increasing steadily over time.
    This made me think BitDefender isn’t the issue but perhaps something it uses in the OS.

    So I then looked at RAMMAP and Task Manager, and that is when I saw the extremely high Paged Pool on the idle system and a relatively small Paged Pool on the system in use. So I checked all the systems with the issue and they all have extremely high paged pools, even on systems that have been rebooted and left idle for days.

    Here are screenshots of for one of my systems that is not having the RAM issue:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]


    And just for a comparison reference, here is what my RMM metrics for RAM look like on one of my PCs that doesn't have the issue:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]



    Here is a quick rundown of these systems configurations which is making it hard to determine if it is a driver issue since 4 different configurations are having the issue:

    Windows 11 has extremely high RAM usage [​IMG]



    I'm not sure whether the huge Page Pool is okay, but it doesn't seem normal when compared to how my RAM utilization is for the 2 systems that are not having any issues.

    If anyone has suggestions on what else I should try to resolve this, I’d greatly appreciate it.

    If you want more information, please give me step-by-step simply to save time – I don’t want to waste any time assuming I know what you want and giving you the wrong info.

    Thanks in advance for the help!!
     
    bumgarb42, Mar 6, 2022
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