Windows 10: Windows 9 Very Unlikely to Save the Collapsing PC Market, IDC Says

I was quite surprised how old my desktop was, I found the invoice for it the other day and I bought it in 2008, I know it came with Vista but it's been running Windows 7 since that came out and I have XP Mode on it as well.
It's been a long time though since I touched the XP part of it but I still use the desktop everyday as well as my Notebook, Smartphone and Kindle. *Wink

 

Yeah. I mean isn't the Universe collapsing? But I'm not worried. Now if Café con leche suddenly disappeared, it could be a catastrophe.

 

Hi there.

I think people like IDC and Gartner can be totally IGNORED -- a GROWING -- yes GROWING part of the PC business is the demand for "Mini Desktops" -- these are really great - tiny footprint, powerful and great to use as streamer servers or all sorts of other things - and being FANLESS -- no noise -- means they can also be placed without a load of cables in places where it looks messy or horrible to have a PC -- for example I HATE the idea of a PC in my lounge / TV viewing area etc but could easily put up with the mini desktop.

Read this (I rather fancy one or even two of the Intel boxes myself).

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/...ry-says-intel/

One mod which would be great IMO for udsing these as STEAM / Entertainment type boxes as well as PC's would be to have some Mouse functions such as the basic navigation incorporated into a TV remote control - a wireless mouse can of course still be used but for some basic functions the TV remote IMO is a good idea -- and mice can get lost quite easily when they are in places like general rooms in the house used by several people (or dogs who seem to have a fascination for them !!).

Cheers
jimbo

 

I build my own desktop PC's, but even if I bought a pre-built it wouldn't be to get the newest OS out there. It would be because I want newer hardware. The installed OS may influence the type purchase for some people but I don't see it as big deciding factor. If you need a new PC/device you need a new device. PC's are just about everywhere now.

 

Hi there alphanumeric -- I wasn't referring to the OS actually being used on these but the fact that this is ONE PC sector that's actually growing.

I've now ordered TWO of the INTEL boxes --I'm going to run one as a Linux server running a Virtualized W2012 server (while I can still get it from TechNet) and the other as primarily an "Entertainment" machine --TV / Video / Audio streaming etc.

I'm long past the days where I liked building and designing rigs "for fun" - although if people want to do that there's still plenty of good value "classic" type Mobos out there. In any case "Home rig builders" were always a minority -- like people tinkering around with Cars/boats/planes etc.

I love the small footprint of these - and there's sufficient power on these too--also if you really do need loads of expansion - nice USB3 expansion hubs are readiliy available (or even USB2).

Dissing these as "Overblown / oversize Tablets" is ridiculous.

If these two work out OK I'll get a 3rd as a general purpose desktop OS and give away my old Tower box PC's.

Judging by the sales volumes people do LIKE these devices and for a lot of things you can't use a purely touch device like a tablet.

Cheers
jimbo

 

I wasn't replying to your post Jimbo, more of a general Statement. How many people do you know that go out and buy a new PC when a new OS is released? Not many I would guess. They buy a new PC because they need a new PC. What OS is on it is a secondary consideration.

 

On the contrary. I want to get a new PC but often I'll wait until they come with the SP already on. Or if it's SP1 and that has been out for some time I may wait around for SP2.

Edit: I know we are basically in agreement. I just chopped it there so I could say "on the contrary" like in the old b&w movies. *Smile

 

Hi there
I like the fact that loads of these "Mini PC's" come without an OS at all -- I'll bet a lot of the Bloatware providers HATE this trend.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Articles headline calls it a Collapse ,and the word was change to a Decline in the rest of the article[what I read of it] ,300 million + units sold in 3 or 4 years ,if that's a collapse then I think most things we use on a daily bases are in trouble

 

Computers are just a fad, I thought everybody new that. :wideyed:

 

Yeah. I'm glad I got rid of mine. I had to reboot the damn thing every time I sent it down a flight of stairs!


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Ok, so graphics isn't my thing. *Smile

 

Welcome to Nine Forums caperjack.

Well, now that WebTv is gone, it's a must have!

 

I find you have to push them though or they stop half way down. It almost seems they have got bored. I tried throwing them straight to the bottom of the stairs but it was slightly unsatisfying both for me and (presumably) the metal spring.

EDIT: Now I'm thinking, does this observation help when considering computer operating systems. If you shove Windows XP (as a spring) does it tumble all the may to the bottom? Does windows 8 sit on the second stair and sulk?

 

What scared me was I opened the case of a custom build I had someone do for me. Where one would expect the power supply, that spring was sitting there. *Smile

Not only that, but when I tried to copy and paste in Explorer the CD door opened and this brown putty was in it.

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does your putty bounce? I'm sure mine did when I was a kid...