Windows 10: Windows Update Issue on a VL system

Discus and support Windows Update Issue on a VL system in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; I am currently running Windows 8.1 Pro VL[activated using the KMS mechanism used in organizations]. After updating my PC, the Get Windows 10 App came... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by Spock781, Jun 2, 2016.

  1. Spock781 Win User

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system


    I am currently running Windows 8.1 Pro VL[activated using the KMS mechanism used in organizations]. After updating my PC, the Get Windows 10 App came and Windows Update is also ready for downloading Win 10. How can it upgrade/download 10 when Volume License editions of Windows are not eligible for the upgrade in the first place?
    Windows Update Issue on a VL system [​IMG]


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    Spock781, Jun 2, 2016
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  2. Windows 10 Upgrade Issues on a VL system

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    ZigZag3143 (MS -MVP), Jun 2, 2016
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  3. Spock7811 Win User
    Windows 10 Upgrade Issues on a VL system

    I am running Windows 8.1 Pro VL edition. After installing all the updates, the Get Windows 10 app popped up and Windows Update is coaxing me to install Win 10 now. Question if how that can happen, when VL editions aren't even eligible for the upgrade in
    the first place?
     
    Spock7811, Jun 2, 2016
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  4. Kari Win User

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system

    You need to talk with your organization's (owner of the volume license) IT department. Volume licensed Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 can only be upgraded through Volume Licensing Service Center and need the organization to subscribe to Software Assurance.
     
    Kari, Jun 2, 2016
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  5. Spock781 Win User
    That is the problem, I don't have any issue with upgrading or anything. But, VL editions can't be upgraded in the normal way, why then am I getting the Windows Update notification to upgrade? Shouldn't Windows realize that my edition isn't eligible for an upgrade automatically?
     
    Spock781, Jun 2, 2016
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  6. Kari Win User
    Is your Windows VLK activation a hack or have you got it from your employer / school?
     
    Kari, Jun 2, 2016
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  7. Spock781 Win User
    From school. They provide valid activations for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 currently.
     
    Spock781, Jun 2, 2016
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  8. Kari Win User

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system

    In that case your only upgrade possibilities are either talk with the school IT department about if and when they upgrade to Windows 10, or buy a Windows 8.1 license / product key and activate using it, then upgrade.
     
    Kari, Jun 2, 2016
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  9. Spock781 Win User
    No, you didn't understand. I don't care about upgrading to Windows 10. I just want to know why Windows Update is showing Windows 10 Pro as available on a PC that has a unsupported copy of Windows[VL]. It isn't about the upgrade at all. I contacted with Microsoft Support Representatives but they weren't any help either[In fact they gave inverse advice than yours].

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system [​IMG]

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system [​IMG]

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system [​IMG]
     
    Spock781, Jun 2, 2016
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  10. Kari Win User
    OK, I think I got you now. My apologies for misreading you earlier.

    As far as I know, a VLK activated Windows 8.1 Pro cannot be upgraded to Windows 10. However, I am starting to suspect I am wrong; it's almost impossible to find information about this, all information I am able to find is only about Enterprise edition.

    The fact that you have been offered the upgrade might indicate that an upgrade is possible.

    Interesting topic, I need to try to find out more information.
     
  11. cereberus Win User
    Yeah - this area seems to be unclear - I have seen several cases where people upgraded from 7/8 to 10240 with a vlk, and later upgraded to 150586 and it fails to activate. In all cases, it seems to be when people are using vlks on a domestic pc ie not a corporate network.

    I am wondering if these are hacked to fool OS that vlk is legit but when you upgrade to 10586, the hack gets lost?
     
    cereberus, Jun 2, 2016
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  12. If it upgrades, but stays in KMS mode, activation will fail right? I also noticed there is a generic VL-MAK key for Windows 10? Maybe the OP's PC is using a MAK key, not KMS?
     
    alphanumeric, Jun 2, 2016
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  13. Spock781 Win User

    Windows Update Issue on a VL system

    I have been offered the Build 1511[November Update] of Windows 10 Pro. My activation is KMS based, not MAK. I tried contacting Microsoft support[twice] and was told that the upgrade was possible but they didn't delve into any details. the upgrade seems possible[it started downloading when I gave it the go] but I'm not sure whether it'll remain activated later. I was surprised to see the Get Windows App but thought that it won't really do anything. But to my surprise, the upgrade was build and ready.
     
    Spock781, Jun 2, 2016
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  14. NavyLCDR New Member
    It's Windows 8.1 Enterprise that can't be upgraded via Windows Update. Windows 8.1 Pro can. The upgrade just won't activate automatically if the Windows 8.1 had a VL.

    I think people might be confusing Windows Enterprise with Windows Pro activated with a volume license.

    Also, don't confuse "not eligible for free upgrade" with "not upgradable via Windows Update".
     
    NavyLCDR, Jun 2, 2016
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  15. Superfly Win User
    VL installations are not supposed to qualify for the free upgrade, however, neither GWX nor Genuine ticket is sophisticated enough to differentiate between key types (all it uses is activation status, hardware id and the Windows edition being upgraded) - thus OEM, Retail, VL can each get digital entitlement, the latter erroneously, ofc.
     
    Superfly, Jun 2, 2016
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