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Discus and support Why does Windows 10 keep changing Boot Manager settings but doesn't show those changes when... in Windows 10 Customization to solve the problem; I dual boot Windows 7 and Windows 10 early version, both with independent licenses. I have run this config for a long time with no issues. I recently... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Customization' started by LeeC2202, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. LeeC2202 Win User

    Why does Windows 10 keep changing Boot Manager settings but doesn't show those changes when...


    I dual boot Windows 7 and Windows 10 early version, both with independent licenses. I have run this config for a long time with no issues. I recently updated my Win 10 install to 1909 under the assurance that "Updating wouldn't affect my dual-boot" situation... and it has.


    Below you can see the settings from the bcdedit.exe /v command and you can see bothbootmenupolicy settings are set to Legacy. Why is it then, that when I just turned on my PC, the boot menu was in Metro view? Why is it that when I shut my PC down after writing this, there will be a 50/50 chance it will show the Metro view again?


    Metro view causes a real inconvenience with Windows 7 because it forces a double boot. I dual-booted on the old version of Windows 10 without this issue, yet since updating to 1909, I get it every day. Windows 7 is my primary development OS, I don't need this level of inconvenience, so I need to work out why this is happening and how to stop it.


    What aspect of Windows 10 controls this functionality and when does it control it? Because from what I am seeing, this setting is getting overridden at shut-down and then somehow being reverted once boot has been completed. That seems like behaviour designed to conceal what is really happening... that's not the behaviour I would expect from an OS, that's malicious-software type behaviour.


    Edit: Please note... the partition letters are reversed when I am in Windows 7, WIndows 7 shows as C: and Windows 10 as W:



    C:\Windows\system32>cmd /k bcdedit /v


    Windows Boot Manager

    --------------------

    identifier {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}

    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1

    description Windows Boot Manager

    locale en-US

    inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}

    default {374efd2b-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    resumeobject {374efd2e-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    displayorder {374efd2b-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    {374efd2f-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    toolsdisplayorder {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}

    timeout 5

    displaybootmenu Yes



    Windows Boot Loader

    -------------------

    identifier {374efd2b-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    device partition=W:

    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe

    description Windows 7

    locale en-US

    inherit {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}

    recoverysequence {374efd2c-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    recoveryenabled Yes

    osdevice partition=W:

    systemroot \Windows

    resumeobject {374efd2a-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    nx OptIn

    bootmenupolicy Legacy



    Windows Boot Loader

    -------------------

    identifier {374efd2f-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    device partition=C:

    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe

    description Windows 10

    locale en-US

    inherit {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}

    recoverysequence {374efd30-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    displaymessageoverride Recovery

    recoveryenabled Yes

    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075

    osdevice partition=C:

    systemroot \Windows

    resumeobject {374efd2e-b916-11e6-b586-e8885e2e78f3}

    nx OptIn

    bootmenupolicy Legacy

    :)
     
    LeeC2202, Jun 4, 2020
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  2. Windows 10 random automatic repair after changing boot priority.

    Hello. So i have an Windows 10 Pro. Sometimes when i am changing in bios boot order from USB to HDD ( SDD ) windows starts booting with AUTOMATIC REPAIR and then restarting. Is this something with BIOS \ Windows 10 bug related? Tested on pc and on laptop , and sometimes it doing the same.


    Situation on PC first,listen:

    Few days ago after i change boot in UEFI BIOS from USB to SSD.
    Then Windows 10 showed at 1 boot Automatic Repair.
    When starting Windows 10 boot loader starts by "preparing automatic repair" and diagnosing pc.
    Interesting is that if I restart Windows (after procedure mentioned earlier) it will boot normally. This startup problem was occured only when starting system again after shutdown or restarted pc from windows.So i was needed 2 boots to boot properly to windows.
    But on pc, format was needed to remove completely issue and after format is fine.

    Pc :
    2x8gb Kingston Hyperx 1600mhz DDR3
    SSD samsung Evo 250 gb
    4790k stock
    Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 with UEFI BIOS


    Now laptop with old standard bios:
    On laptop i made the same operation, change boot from USB to HDD and on first boot Windows 10 shows Automatic Repair. But it happened once and i cant reproduce. No format was needed.

    laptop is very old with 2gb ram

    Why on pc format was needed when on laptop not?



    Thanks for suggestions.
     
    litwicki24, Jun 4, 2020
    #2
  3. 95Viper Win User
    Windows 8.1 update changed the language, can't change back

    Maybe, these will help... it seems it is a common enough problem.

    Language packs are no longer available after you upgrade to Windows 8.1

    And, sort of the same here --> Add a language or keyboard

    Quote from above MS web page:

    Spoiler Download and install language packs
    You'll need to download the language pack if you want to make a language your Windows display language (that's the language you see most often in Windows and apps).
    • Swipe in from the right edge of the screen, tap Settings, and then tap Change PC settings.
      (If you're using a mouse, point to the lower-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer up, click Settings, and then click Change PC settings.)
    • Tap or click Time and language, and then tap or click Region and language.
    • Tap or click a language that says Language pack available underneath, and then tap or click Options.
    • Tap or click Download. The download process might take a while, depending on your PC and the size of the language pack.
      If you want to make this your display language, see the next section "Change your Windows display language".
    Change your Windows display language
    To change your Windows display language (that's the language you see most often in Windows and apps), first add a language, download and install the language pack, and then follow these steps.
    • Swipe in from the right edge of the screen, tap Settings, and then tap Change PC settings.
      (If you're using a mouse, point to the lower-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer up, click Settings, and then click Change PC settings.)
    • Tap or click Time and language, and then tap or click Region and language.
    • Tap or click the language that you want to set as your display language.
    • Tap or click Set as primary to move the language to the top of the list. If the language can become your Windows display language, you'll see Will be display language after next sign-in appear under the language.
    • Sign out and then sign back in to finish.
    And here is some more info --> Add Language Packs to Windows
     
    95Viper, Jun 4, 2020
    #3
  4. Sterfry7 Win User

    Why does Windows 10 keep changing Boot Manager settings but doesn't show those changes when...

    Can´t change flicks settings (these settings are managed by admin)


    I am having this same exact issue. I haven't found a solution anywhere. I've done the same steps you have as well. I'm running Windows 10 Pro and still no luck. Did you ever find a solution?
     
    Sterfry7, Jun 4, 2020
    #4
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