Windows 10: 600 Millions PCs Waiting for Windows 10

What a junk site. Bogdan does a lot of speculating in his articles with referencing someone with no reference. Notice he states:

Well, hell could freeze over too, but I doubt it. Where do they come up with these numbers? That's what I want to know. *Rolleyes

 

Good point. However, will those 600M really go for a new PC with 10 if it has the same appearance as 8.1. I think right now many people are saying that there is little difference between 10 and 8.1 or even 7 in terms of function. This poor start menu which is really a camouflaged start screen (which I like better) is not going to convince people.

As the old commercial said: " Where is the beef ". I would be looking for a lot more sexy new functions to make a convincing case. But maybe I just don't see those new functions.

 

I think comparing it to 8.1 there is a big difference. This edition thus far is more desktop oriented as 8.1 is more Start Screen oriented “out of the box”. They made the mistake of forcing the Modern Start Screen onto users with 8, but tried correcting it with 8.1 to be able to configure to boot to desktop, although too late, for the damage done. “Out of the box” I guess is the key here. I guess that really matters.

I agree about the Start Menu added in 10. That’s the biggest difference in the edition comparing it to 7. I think when those users disliking Modern apps understand that they can eliminate the Modern Store apps’ tiles in the right column and substitute “icon tiles” to link to those items in the 7 Start Menu, then I think they may accept the menu. For those of us that like the Modern, we can use the menu as is or configure to use the Start Screen.

We shall see what Continuum brings, but I’m not liking Modern apps opening on the desktop, for it leaves me there when closing apps instead of returning to the Start Screen. Perhaps Continuum will change that. For now a simple WinKey gets me there. Not all that a big deal, but I’d rather have Start Screen orientation.

Also, there are those that think MS should give up on the Modern altogether, but that isn’t going to happen. Too important business wise. Aero is another. They may bring it back, but I doubt it.

 

No. If in your case, you buy Windows 10 upon its RTM build being released next year, that will be a VERY different Windows 10 than the one you install an/or update to in 2023 (after 8x support runs out). Remember, it's VERY likely that Windows 10 will be the final full release of Windows as we know it. All OS changes form there on in will be delivered as an update (similarly to the build updates on the TP you've been getting). That's why Microsoft is testing that update mechanism. That is how new Windows "imporvements" or "builds will be sent. There won't be a Windows 11, 12, 13, or whatever. Windows 10 will be like OSX (ongoing for eternity)

So next year's initial release will or may closely resemble what you get in the Consumer Preview come January. The Windows 10 build you update in several years from now, may be radically different.

 

Good point. However, will those 600M really go for a new PC with 10 if it has the same appearance as 8.1. I think right now many people are saying that there is little difference between 10 and 8.1 or even 7 in terms of function. This poor start menu which is really a camouflaged start screen (which I like better) is not going to convince people.

As the old commercial said: " Where is the beef ". I would be looking for a lot more sexy new functions to make a convincing case. But maybe I just don't see those new functions. I didn't say I agreed with the 600 million PC number, I was just pointing out what the article is saying. The desktop PC I am typing this post on is running Win 7 and I have no reason to replace it anytime soon nor any desire to upgrade the OS to Win 10.

I'll probably only have a machine running Win 10 if I build or buy a new one AFTER Win 10 is released. Until then, my Win 7 machines will continue to run Win 7 and my Win 8 machines will contiue to run Win 8.

 

Did I miss something along the line? Was there an official statement of what you're stating from MS perhaps?

While I'm at it. Some say that the kernel hasn't changed. Just the number. They're always adding to and improving it. e.g. Defender has been incorporated into the kernel.

 

Did I miss something along the line? Was there an official statement of what you're stating from MS perhaps?

While I'm at it. Some say that the kernel hasn't changed. Just the number. They're always adding to and improving it. e.g. Defender has been incorporated into the kernel. There have been several threads in this forum and respectable articles citing this is going to be Microsoft's path. That why I chuckle when someone says I'll wait this one out and try Windows 11 or 12. Uh, there won't be.

 

Did I miss something along the line? Was there an official statement of what you're stating from MS perhaps?

While I'm at it. Some say that the kernel hasn't changed. Just the number. They're always adding to and improving it. e.g. Defender has been incorporated into the kernel. There have been several threads in this forum and respectable articles citing this is going to be Microsoft's path. That why I chuckle when someone says I'll wait this one out and try Windows 11 or 12. Uh, there won't be. OK. So nothing set in stone yet. It'll be interesting to see what they do.

If true, I wonder if one could get Windows 10 Build XXXX, skip Build YYYY, then get Build ZZZZ. Basically the same as one edition to another skipping an edition, or two, etc.

 

In an interview of the new MS CEO Satya Nadella I saw it did sound like they are going with that contineous update strategy. Unfortunately I lost the link to that interview.

 

In an interview of the new MS CEO Satya Nadella I saw it did sound like they are going with that contineous update strategy. Unfortunately I lost the link to that interview. I've read that too.

Ars Technia - Peter Bright
Windows 10

 

Thanks, guys. Interesting indeed.

 

Did I miss something along the line? Was there an official statement of what you're stating from MS perhaps?

While I'm at it. Some say that the kernel hasn't changed. Just the number. They're always adding to and improving it. e.g. Defender has been incorporated into the kernel. There have been several threads in this forum and respectable articles citing this is going to be Microsoft's path. That why I chuckle when someone says I'll wait this one out and try Windows 11 or 12. Uh, there won't be. Jody Thornton,

How is that going to work with OEM's and hardware manufactures? Really Microsoft going to give up the cash cow and not sell newer operating systems? Who knows there might not be a Microsoft in the future. I don't know if Internet service provider will like people having to download huge operating systems every few months to get a newer version. A lot of people like doing a clean install, so that sounds like that will be eliminated.

 

I guess the OEMs will install whatever is the most recent update. And nobody said that the updates will be for free. I suspect they will have a subscription scheme - that is an even cash flow.

 

If this comes to be this is quite a different approach. A faster cycle for those that want it. Slower for those that don't, especially enterprise. This all makes sense since they placed the choice in PC Settings.

I think it will be available as either a one time price or subscription, although it does seem it would fit the subscription model better.

 

All,

I thought the subscription model was nixed. I read a few feedback complaints on that issue. We pay Internet provider and have to have a cable package to get it a decent price. Now, Microsoft expect us the consumer to add another bill, I don't think that going to work in the U.S. This also might effect plans for FCC to provide service for rural people in the U.S. I know a wireless provider in my area that got the funds to test out wireless service. The normal wireless service is suppose to be cheaper than cable economy service. I may get that service in March 2015 if it is ready. The U.S. government wants the majority of to U.S. citizens to sign up for High Speed Internet access. Oem's will need big warnings on the computer boxes and have a warning before you run the computer purchase at the checkout before you are able to swipe your card or pay cash for your system. If Microsoft charges a monthly fee, or yearly subscription fee to run your computer that might will backfire.