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  1. BunnyJ New Member

    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...


    I understand what you mean, it's just nice that there are options out there to chose from even if I don't choose to make use of them,, variety is the spice of life. *Wink
     
    BunnyJ, Mar 3, 2015
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  2. jeffrys Win User

    well trust,

    when i reread it all, i do not know why i said that myself. Hahaha

    Jeff
     
    jeffrys, Mar 3, 2015
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  3. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi there

    Properties are EASY to find also with the W10 start menu -- simply right mouse click -- open file location and then properties.

    From the file location you can also send the application to the desktop if you want just like W7.

    Can't really understand the difficulty here.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Mar 3, 2015
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  4. adamf Win User

    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...

    A problem is MS not showing everything in start menu search and (in this build anyway) no way to turn it on. In earlier builds and Windows 8 you could enable viewing of applications in administrative tools. In current build you can't.

    You search for "Powershell ISE" and it isn't found for example. Hopefully this is a bug - if not a start menu that shows all applications (not excluding some for unknown reasons) would be welcome.
     
    adamf, Mar 3, 2015
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  5. BunnyJ New Member
    Honestly, I don't like the search feature. In most cases using Google results in a better result than the MS search... IMO. YMMV.
     
    BunnyJ, Mar 3, 2015
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  6. adamf Win User
    I didn't mean internet search - I meant programs on your PC are not shown. If I want to open Powershell ISE this is the result after pressing the *Start key - it doesn't exist.

    Attachment 13677

    To open it you have to go to control panel, administrative tools etc. Sure there are workarounds but some things are hidden by default on start menu and if this is deliberate and continues I'd want an alternative.

    Attachment 13675
     
    adamf, Mar 3, 2015
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  7. BunnyJ New Member
    Now I see what you mean.. thanks for pointing that out.
     
    BunnyJ, Mar 3, 2015
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  8. Tews Win User

    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...

    *Roflmao2
     
  9. Edwin New Member
    That is strange. It comes up if you use Search from the WinX Menu though! Go figure!?


    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense... [​IMG]
     
    Edwin, Mar 3, 2015
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  10. adamf Win User
    Actually it turns out that this works Administrative Tools - Hide or Show in Windows 8

    I had to use this registry option though as I'm a bit short on charm bars.

    PHP Code: :: Created by: Shawn Brink
    :: Windows 8 Help Forums
    :: Tutorial: Administrative Tools - Hide or Show in Windows 8

    REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced" /V StartMenuAdminTools /T REG_dWORD /D 1 /F

    taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
    start explorer.exe
     
    adamf, Mar 3, 2015
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  11. Edwin New Member
    Hmmm, nice!
    I went back to the 'Resizable Menu' UI and added Admin Tools from there so they show up on the 'New' UI.
    (The reason PowerShell ISE didn't show up for me before, I forgot that I had a lot of 'rarely used' folders hidden!) *Redface


    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense... [​IMG]
     
    Edwin, Mar 3, 2015
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  12. I'm looking at Win10 as a new beginning.

    I have to break old habits and think how I want to use Windows now, not how I always have - boring!!!!!!

    So, I'm changing everything
    • taskbar goes up top (ala title bar)
    • desktop icons are banished until I can convince MS that a scrollable bar (ala Android) would be a good thing to offer.
      For now, I just pin user, computer and recycle to file explore, and pin other things to the taskbar
    • taskbar revisited - looking at better ways to manage stuff here (ala Bins). Personal toolbars might be useful if they were more customizable (they are old tech)
    • Quick Access (formerly Home) on File Explorer holds favorite things (Home, user folders, links to work folders & everyday file use)

    Transition is a bitch - I keep going to the lower left corner to press the Windows logo *Tongue

    If Win10 is going to truly be a cross platform OS /GUI, then MS has a lot of things to think about. They too have to dismiss the past and embrace the future - they just have to do it carefully so people don't kvetch about nostalgia.

    Anyway........
     
    Slartybart, Mar 3, 2015
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  13. adamf Win User

    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...

    I find that quite buggy at the moment. *Start + X still appears at bottom left and search doesn't work. Does it work for you?
     
    adamf, Mar 4, 2015
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  14. Ztruker Win User
    Power button is at the top right of the start menu:


    A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense... [​IMG]
     
    Ztruker, Mar 5, 2015
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  15. Everything seems to work fine, now.

    I had the Modern WinLogo appear at the bottom left - but I just tried on both GUIs - it's not there ant more!?!

    Search just started working today after I looked at about 10 things.
    ON - Privacy -> Location platform
    ON - Let Windows and apps I've allowed, to use my location and location history.
    ON - Search


    Speech, inking & typing
    is getting to know you

    Go to Bing an manage personal information for your devices
    ** Bing config actually seems to work for me now
    ** I picked a few interests (weather, travel, and ????)
    **-this is good - it replaces the terrible default for Cortana/search. No trends when Cortana shows you the weather

    I changed Bing to be my default search

    I managed to get past the Store (beta) issue, Update required | This is embarrassing, and poked around. There were 10 updates to MS apps, mostly ones I had uninstalled
    I ran all 10 updates - had to pick each one, the update all didn't work for me.

    I had to 'fix' my microphone
    I ran the Recording troubleshooter twice (two ports - built in and mini jack)
    Neither mic seemed to work with Cortana, the external mic had nearly no gain.

    After running the troubleshooter on the ext mic, I poked around in the audio recoding settings.
    I made the ext mic the default, then after no change, I disconnected the mic.

    When I went back to restore the default mic in audio recoding settings, it already was - but the position on the Window was now the second mic, not the first.

    Taskbar search is set to icon - I toggled that around and also toggled the size of the taskbar.

    I launched search and everything in Settings is ON except detect tracking info.

    I also told Cortana my name was Slarty , you might want to be called Adam *Wink

    Make sure Geolocation Svc is not disabled - I set mine to manual, not sue what the default is.

    Thats' it, as Shawn is wont to say *Tongue

    Sorry about the randomness, I had tried before and failed to get Cortana working. I was just going over everything I could think of that might affect it.

    One or more of the above made it work on my machine.
    Orrrr, I forgot that one critical piece of information.

    But wait .... there's a new build coming,
    Cortana might be a non-issue (MS is banking on it working, they can't go back to Clippy the paperclip!)
    or we'll have to go through the exercise again

    I'll probably just investigate Cortana and then turn it off. Can't see myself talking to a machine all day ... at my desk ... alone *Smile






    Notations.
    Start is set to Resizable : Start Menu - Enable or Disable Resizable in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
     
    Slartybart, Mar 5, 2015
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