Windows 10: Advantages over Windows 7?

I have not seen anyone report success doing a reset in Windows 10. I have seen several (more than 3) reports of reset not working.

 

The only reason i can figure anyone would post they like WIN10- the must have Microsoft in their portfolios. Windows is about to bomb- no matter who says it's the best thing since sliced bread. Viva will be selling rolls of MS stock for paper towels and then it still will be over valued! Northern could make better use..........

 

We've seen a couple hundred computer upgrade problems in these forums, out of how many millions of upgrades total? Last I heard it was nearing or over 75 Million, that 75.000,000 computers that have upgraded to Windows 10.

I believe you are wrong and Windows 10 will be a success, far beyond the market penetration Windows 8.1 has. Eventually it will surpass Windows 7. MS will have to make some changes I'm sure, one being all the data it's collecting. No way businesses will allow that. The first service pack or whatever they are going to call it will be out soon which I think will fix many of the problems people are seeing doing the upgrade.

That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it (and to Windows 10).

Edit: I don't even have a portfolio!

 

Right, but in that case, I don't see what good the "reset" will do. The problem is almost certainly something about the old drivers not working right -- I've disabled every startup program so there's nothing left but drivers and it still takes a long time to boot.

I think Windows 10 should probably be OK on machines that were explicitly designed for it and tested by manufacturers. Also, by the time I buy a new machine, most of these bugs should be fixed. However, I suspect that this laptop is just too old. I'll wait another week or two in case they issue a patch, but then I'm going back to Windows 7.

 

OP, if I were you, I would clean-install in a heartbeat. Just back up your data on an external hard drive, wipe the whole PC and install Windows 10 fresh.

I'm pretty sure that cleaning out the trash from old installations will do wonders for your PC.

Windows 10 will probably work with all the features of your laptop out of the box, and you won't have to install any special drivers. It's an HP laptop, after all, so a major brand, plus it's a few years old, so it's not like it's brand-new hardware that operating systems don't support yet.

Worst case scenario: Windows 10, for some reason, really doesn't work with your old PC - so you just re-install 7!

EDIT: you seem to be familiar with Ubuntu, so I'm presuming you've already experienced for yourself that usually, new operating systems "just work" with older computers.

 

But this is exactly why I created this thread. Yes, I can do a clean install of Windows 10 (note that it didn't help the other guy with the black screen problem) and troubleshoot some more and then wait for the update from Microsoft and, worst comes to worst, do a clean install of Windows 7. However, this is a whole lot of work so I would like to know why I should bother when the alternative is to just roll back to Windows 7 which has worked fine for years. It would be one thing if Windows 10 somehow doubled my CPU and GPU performance or something of the sort, but even if I could get it to work properly, it's a mixed bag of minor changes. I like some of them, dislike some and don't care about the rest, but none of them strikes me as worth the hassle of significant debugging.

 

Yeah, you've got a good point there. FWIW, for me, Windows 10 boils down to having the latest and future-proof Windows, and being able to watch Netflix in 1080p and 5.1 Surround ;-)

I do like the way it works on my two PCs and my girlfriend's two PCs. It's smooth, responsive and remarkably stable for being less than a week old.

That said, you might be better off in the end sticking with Windows 7 on your old PC - you'll get 10 anyway once you buy a new one.

Let us know what you decide!

 

I've been using it for a few days now, well, actually, getting rid of what I can and trying to figure out how to get rid of the other. But the main reason I like it is the sound drivers don't introduce the latency experienced in win 8.1. I can actually use my amp modelers without having to custom install asio drivers, and that's cool. I do want to do a clean install with a complete hd format and have made the necessary win10 boot and backed up everything. I'm just not sure if I'm up to the hassle yet; nothing ever goes as planned with MS.

 

I installed 10 on a decidedly obsolete machine yesterday. It's a P4 3.0 GHz with a single gigabyte of RAM and a 20 GB IDE Hard Disk. Now I'm going to use Insider Builds on it, and I'm plugging through some activation issues right now, but that aside. It is astounding how fast it runs on this old clunker. It boots to the logon screen in eight seconds. Then the login time takes maybe another seven seconds at the most. Unbelievable! I can't get over it. Also, getting around the OS is relatively quick. Edge and IE 11 are both fairly brisk, but I have to say that IE 11 fares a touch better.

But I'd be inclined to agree that the aesthetics aren't for me. Those caption buttons are gawd-ugly and way too spread out, and how about some colour on those title bars? I'm not big on the revamped Start Menu either, but again, I'm just wanting to see where they go with it. I'm not quite sure it's a "turd" however.

 

I have 10 installed on 2 pc's and a small laptop and in all three cases it runs just fine. If you don't like 10 don't use it. After all it didn't cost you anything. I didn't like 8 so I kept with 7. There is no product out there that can satisfy everyone. I agree with Jody that the aesthetics leave something to be desired, but hopefully that will improve with time. BTW my stock portfolio worked out for me about as well as my LOTO retirement plan. *cry

 

W10 (and the W8 series) don't really shutdown like older versions of Windows.
It uses some sort of hybrid hibernation-shutdown.

Brink has created a tutorial that shows you how to get rid of the "Diamond White" Titlebars.

Tutorial
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7...dows-10-a.html

 

Yeah windows since 8 uses hybrid shutdown, which is just as good as regular shut down except that it allows a reboot in seconds

 

A Real Shutdown purges everything, who knows what survives a Hybrid Shutdown.

 

If you waited for any new OS to be "ready for prime time" you would never have a new version of any OS. All new OS's will have bugs. /Fact. As for the rest of your post it's just a personal preference thing.. and for me and other WIn10 is not a "polished turd".

 

Windows 8.1 boots in 10 seconds in my laptop, just like W10.

And I don't even use an SSD or have a very powerful laptop.

So, this is not a reason to upgrade.