Windows 10: AMD Nested Virtualization... When will it be available on mainstream update channel?

stingey1960 · Jan 20, 2021

Hello,

I'm currently running windows 10 in the development channel to have access to Hyper-V virtual machine version 9.3.. The dev channel is understandably unstable so i'm wondering when the 9.3 virtual machine version will be available in the NON-DEV update channel. Can anyone shed a light on a timeframe?

Thanks!

:)

Brink · Jan 20, 2021

Windows Insider Preview: Nested Virtualization

Earlier in the year, we announced that we will be building nested virtualization so that people could run Hyper-V Containers in Hyper-V virtual machines.

In preparation for the first public preview of Hyper-V Containers, we are releasing a preview of nested virtualization. This feature allows you to run Hyper-V in a virtual machine (note that this is Hyper-V on Hyper-V only… other hypervisors will fail).

Although Hyper-V Containers have not been released yet, for now you can try out this feature with Hyper-V virtual machines.

Build 10565 -- It is a very early preview

Yesterday, we announced the release of build 10565 to Windows Insiders on the Fast ring. This build contains an early preview of nested virtualization.

When I say it is an “early” preview, I mean it – there are plenty of known issues, and there is functionality which we still need to build. We wanted to share this feature with Insiders as soon as possible though, even if that meant things are still rough around the edges.

This post will give a quick overview of what nested virtualization is, and briefly cover how it works. The end of this post will explain how to enable it, so you can try it out. Please read the “known issues” section before trying this feature.

What is nested virtualization?

In essence, this feature virtualizes certain hardware features that are required to run a hypervisor in a virtual machine.
Hyper-V relies on hardware virtualization support (e.g. Intel VT-x and AMD-V) to run virtual machines. Typically, once Hyper-V is installed, the hypervisor hides this capability from guest virtual machines, preventing guests virtual machines from installing Hyper-V (and many other hypervisors, for that matter).

Nested virtualization exposes hardware virtualization support to guest virtual machines. This allows you to install Hyper-V in a guest virtual machine, and create more virtual machines “within” that underlying virtual machine.

In the image below, you can see a host machine running a virtual machine, which in turn is running its own guest virtual machine. This is made possible by nested virtualization. Behold, three levels of Cortana!

Under the hood

Consider the diagram below, which shows the “normal” (i.e. non-nested) case. The Hyper-V hypervisor takes full control of virtualization extensions (orange arrow), and does not expose them to the guest OS.

Contrast this with the nested diagram below. In this case, Hyper-V has been configured to expose virtualization extensions to its guest VM. A guest VM can take advantage of this, and install its own hypervisor. It can then run its own guest VMs.

Known issues: important!

Like I said earlier – this is still just a “preview” of this feature. Obviously, this feature should not be used in production environments. Below is a list of known issues:

Both hypervisors need to be the latest versions of Hyper-V. Other hypervisors will not work. Windows Server 2012R2, or even builds prior to 10565 will not work.

Once nested virtualization is enabled in a VM, the following features are no longer compatible with that VM. These actions will either fail, or cause the VM not to start:

Dynamic memory must be OFF. This will prevent the VM from booting.

Runtime memory resize will fail.

Applying checkpoints to a running VM will fail.

Live migration will fail.

Save/restore will fail.

Once nested virtualization is enabled in a VM, MAC spoofing must be enabled for networking to work in its guests.

Hosts with Virtualization Based Security (VBS) enabled cannot expose virtualization extensions to guests. You must first disable VBS in order to preview nested virtualization.

This feature is currently Intel-only. Intel VT-x is required.

Beware: nested virtualization requires a good amount of memory. I managed to run a VM in a VM with 4 GB of host RAM, but things were tight.

How to enable nested virtualization

Step 1: Create a VM

Step 2: Run the enablement script

Given the configuration requirements (e.g. dynamic memory must be off), we’ve tried to make things easier by providing a PowerShell script.

This script will check your configuration, change anything which is incorrect (with permission), and enable nested virtualization for a VM. Note that the VM must be off.

Invoke-WebRequest https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M...aster/hyperv-tools/Nested/Enable-NestedVm.ps1 -OutFile ~/Enable-NestedVm.ps1
~/Enable-NestedVm.ps1 -VmName <VmName>

Step 3: Install Hyper-V in the guest
From here, you can install Hyper-V in the guest VM.

Step 4: Enable networking (optional)

Once nested virtualization is enabled in a VM, MAC spoofing must be enabled for networking to work in its guests. Run the following PowerShell (as administrator) on the host machine:

Set-VMNetworkAdapter -VMName <VMName> -MacAddressSpoofing on

Step 5: Create nested VMs

Give us feedback!

If you discover any issues, or have any suggestions, please consider submitting feedback with the Windows Feedback app, through the virtualization forums, or through GitHub.

We are also very interested to hear how people are using nested virtualization. Please tell us about your scenario by dropping us a line at L: VirtualPCGuy@microsoft.com.

FAQ and troubleshooting

My VM won’t start, what should I do?

First, make sure dynamic memory is OFF. If this was not the issue, run this PowerShell script on your host machine from an elevated prompt. This script reports whether your host and VMs are configured properly for nested.

Invoke-WebRequest https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M.../hyperv-tools/Nested/Get-NestedVirtStatus.ps1 -OutFile ~/Get-NestedVirtStatus.ps1
~/Get-NestedVirtStatus.ps1

Go build VMs in VMs!

Cheers, Theo Thompson
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Source: Windows Insider Preview: Nested Virtualization - Windows Virtualization Team Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

Nikhar_K · Jan 20, 2021

Cortana and nest

Hi,

Thank you for writing to Microsoft Community Forums.

At present, Cortana can
control your smart home devices such as

Turn lights on or off

Set the brightness of a light

Control a group of lights

Set the temperature

Turn the thermostat up or down

I would suggest you to check with the Nest support team if the Nest Hello can be
configured to Cortana commands.

Regards,

Nikhar Khare

Microsoft Community - Moderator

Voyagr12 · Jan 20, 2021

Cortana and Nest

I am attempting to connect Cortana with Nest and running into difficulty. I go to the Connected Home. I turn it on, sign in. I click on Nest. I enter my Nest credentials and click Allow. I then get booted back to the Connected Home screen and nothing
happens. The Nest option still says tap to connect. Cant imagine I am doing anything wrong.. as the steps are straight forward and simple. The only thing I can think of is that my two step verification on my MS account is somehow interfering. Could this
be the case?

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