Windows 10: Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly.

Discus and support Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly. in Windows 10 Software and Apps to solve the problem; Hi, Not asking anyone to solve this problem really but just wishing to raise the subject of problematic Apps which for me are spoiling my satisfaction... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Software and Apps' started by Yorky, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. Yorky Win User

    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly.


    Hi, Not asking anyone to solve this problem really but just wishing to raise the subject of problematic Apps which for me are spoiling my satisfaction of Windows 10.
    Windows 10 for me is working fine and I like it. that is all but the Apps which are a complete pain.
    Here is a taste of the problem from my Reliability Monitor for the past month:
    Download Maps Manager - failed on 12th/17th/24th September and Stopped working on 25th September and I've never actually used the darn thing. So I uninstalled it via Power Shell.
    Pel-licules programs update failed on 26th/27th and 8 times on 28th September.
    So I uninstalled Grove Music and Films and TV via Power Shell only to find they re-appeared the next day.
    The Store App - updates failed 12 times on 30th September and also stopped working once on the same date.
    The Store App update has failed 4 times today the 1st October.
    Following this Forum I find that the same problem is widely experienced.
    Just what is the trouble with Apps and what is being done to correct the situation which spoils an otherwise fine OS.
    Thank you.
    .

    :)
     
    Yorky, Sep 30, 2015
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  2. The good, the bad, and the ugly!

    Go to this link and it explains everything about sharing in network and homegroup. It is also to help and try and fix the issue in Windows 10 of missing PC's showing in the Network Folder. But in all, it explains about sharing.

    How To FIX Missing Computer Icons In Network Folder & Fix Homegroup In Win 10 "UPDATED"

    Interesting link, thought it might be the one to fix our problem. Setup a homegroup on my computer after verifying all the sharing buttons. Went to my wife's computer and verified the sharing buttons, then tried to join the homegroup got as far as entering
    the password "Window can't setup a homegroup on this computer."

    An interesting observation, on my computer the active network is called Network, on the shop and wife's computers it's called the name of our router.

    If you have 2 different networks, then you will not connect with one of the PC's. I can not remember, did you not also say this PC will not connect to internet and network computers.

    On this PC with the issue, is it the one connected to your modem/router.

    I suggest to remove all mapped network drives on all PC's First.

    You need to create a new network on the PC connected to your Modem/router or the main one if all are wireless connected. First unjoin any Homegroups on all PC's, this includes stopping sharing of personal files and devices. Then you need to restart all the
    PC's and log on to them. disconnect all PC's from the Modem/router or internet. Shut them all down but the main one.

    Then create a new network on Main PC

    go to:

    Action Center>>All Settings>>Network and Internet>>Status

    And select Reset Network

    Restart PC and log on and then reboot Modem/router, restart PC again and log on.

    Check for internet connection status.

    Then go to other PC's, one PC at a time, and reset their network, restart them and log on. Keep the main one logged on at all times.

    If all PC's connect to internet then restart all of them again and log on to all of them.

    Then you can follow the procedures for sharing from my link. If you are good connecting to each others PC's through the network folder to their Public folders (Which you may have to enter the User and Password connecting to other PC's the first time and
    save remember credentials), then you can go to step 2.

    Step 2 will now be setting up Home group, If you have any issues creating password or joining Homegroup, then use the info on my link towards bottom for resetting the Homegroup and follow it exactly.

    Let me know what the deal is.

    Do not worry about manually naming any network connections.

    Do not check the box remember credentials if you have to do this first time to access other Network PC's and their Public folders until you know you have entered the correct user name and password. then close out, open it again, enter the info and select
    to remember credentials.
     
    seahawks65, Sep 30, 2015
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  3. Gymbos Win User
    The good, the bad, and the ugly!

    What does mapping network drive have anything to do with this. I do not believe it does. You want some good advice, I would never ever create a mapped network drive. There is no reason for it and it is just a precursor to corrupt system files and problems.

    If you want a clean install of Version 1703 then select that with the media creation tool, if you can still install older version. But you will be forced to install 1709 through windows update. You are better off installing a clean install of 1709 as I mentioned.

    Mapping network drives has everything to do with it, every upgrade trashes my home network. Your good advice falls on deaf ears, we are not experts, we learned about networking probably with Windows Xp, it has worked for us for many years and we don't want
    to send a lot of time learning anything new, which by the way we don't even know what that would be. And if mapping network drives is a precursor to corrupt system files then I would blame Windows 10 for that. It sounds to me that if it ain't broke - break
    it!

    For anyone else reading this thread, a clean install requires reinstall all of your software, so be sure you know all of your product keys, registration info, and passwords. Give yourself a lot of time, and if it's some else's computer you may be in big
    trouble if you don't handle it gently.

    I hope you understand where I'm coming from, we had a perfectly good home network, our backups were working fine, my wife needs a picture printed she could put in our Xfer folder, I have another computer in my workshop where can look at a CAD drawing on
    my office computer ( I can still do that, but for how long). Now I clean install means sitting down with my wife, finding out which programs she has that has to reinstall right away make sure all registration info is available, were, looking at several long
    days of work - that is not fun.
     
    Gymbos, Sep 30, 2015
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  4. CountMike New Member

    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly.

    Are you hibernating or "sleeping" your computer ? I'm not doing either, it's on 24/7 and never had problems with APP updating as opposed to my laptop that's most of the time in sleep mode and has update failures.
    On the other hand, APPs are just too new experience for windows and with MS tendencies to make them universal for all windows 10 devices, there's heck of more work to be done in that sphere of SW development.
     
    CountMike, Sep 30, 2015
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  5. Yorky Win User
    Hi, my computer is not in constant use. Being an octogenarian I log-on usually from 0900 till about 1600 most days for emails and my hobby of photography. It is left on during that period while I do other chores in the garden and such and I don't apply hibernate or sleep. The computer does close the screen after 15 minutes of non-use. I don't have any problem with other updates which is set to automatic. I do switch off completely other than the router each evening.
    Thank you.
    .
     
    Yorky, Sep 30, 2015
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  6. CountMike New Member
    I don't look at it as a big problem, most of the APPs that do not update automatically, update at first use. At least not big enough problem to get rid of them completely as I have some use for them.
     
    CountMike, Sep 30, 2015
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  7. Torquemada, Sep 30, 2015
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  8. Yorky Win User

    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly.

    Hi and thanks to you both for the advice.
    Firstly and following on from advice from CountMike I checked Power Options and found that the setting caused the PC to 'Sleep' after 30 minutes inactivity. So I changed that to 'Never' and intend to leave it on over night to see what happens.
    Secondly to Torquemada' I have ran 'wsreset' and rebooted twice with 2 sets of 4 failures to update shown.
    I then tried the second option to re-set my Region and once again re-booted and once again there were 4 further failed updates. I had also opened the Store App after each attempt. So thanks but no joy so far.
    Back to option 1 from CountMike, I will leave the computer on overnight and check again tomorrow.
    Whatever happens I will report the outcome.
    Thank you both,
    .
     
    Yorky, Sep 30, 2015
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  9. Yorky Win User
    Hi, As promised in my previous post I'm reporting the findings after leaving the PC permanently switched on.
    There were 8 updates received at the same time, 4 successfully but the 4 Store ones failed yet again. See insert graphic.
    It would appear that there must be some further reason for this failure and hopefully someone may provide a solution or it may, like some other earlier failed App updates, self correct.
    Thank you.


    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly. [​IMG]
     
    Yorky, Oct 2, 2015
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  10. lx07 Win User
    A couple of other reasons all apps will crash: Your time-zone is incorrect or your MS account needs validation. Both have happened to me.

    I do wish they would indicate the reason rather than just aborting and writing about authentication to the error logs.
     
  11. CountMike New Member
    Maybe you can try some of these:
    How to enable automatic app updates


    • Open the Store
    • Tap or click the user icon on top, next to the search form
    • Tap or click Settings
    • Toggle On Update apps automatically
    How to manually check for app updates

    • Open the Store
    • Tap or click the user icon on top, next to the search form
    • Tap or click Downloads
    • Tap or click Check for updates
    You can also check specific apps for updates by going to their Store page. You can use the search form to find the app, or check My Library for a list of all your apps.
     
    CountMike, Oct 2, 2015
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  12. Yorky Win User
    Thanks Count Mike for the information. Actually I had found my way into those settings a few days ago. Nevertheless I did upon reading your 'post' follow the details to ensure that the settings were activated as suggested. They were and as once before there was an 'arrow' indicating there was an update awaiting installation. I activated it (as I had done previously) only to find that it once again failed. This graphic is for Updates today 3rd October firstly at 0835/6 which shows 4 Store failures and 6 successful for other Apps. The second set of 4 Store failures at 1003 were the result of me attempting to manually install following receipt of you 'post'.
    The Store seems not wishing to cooperate. Nevertheless thank you for your assistance, I do appreciate it. Hopefully it will sort itself out and has you said earlier it's no big deal really.
    .


    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly. [​IMG]
     
    Yorky, Oct 2, 2015
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  13. Yorky Win User

    Apps - The Good Bad & the Ugly.

    Hi, Just to let you know I've sorted the problem with the Store App.
    I uninstalled it and then reinstalled it and at that point it accepted the update - so problem solved.
    Thanks to those who offered help.
     
    Yorky, Apr 5, 2018
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