Windows 10: Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore

Discus and support Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; Try disabling system protection completely and reboot then check it again with TreeSize. Attachment 152735 That should delete all restore points... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. jakkaas Win User

    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore


    Its not working
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  2. jakkaas Win User

    Nope cant
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  3. cereberus Win User
    You really need to supply more info e.g. error messages, screen dumps etc.

    Try safe mode, or using a live linux drive etc.
     
    cereberus, Sep 10, 2017
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  4. jakkaas Win User

    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore

    There is no error message.
    Manually I cant access sytem volume.
    By CCcleaner, Disk cleaner, clean manager or by deleting system restore point i am not getting to to delete this specific system restore file. They are all deleting every other file except this 11.5 gb restore files.

    Using treesize when i right click on the specif folder and delete, it is showing deleting file and moving it to recycle bin. But when i check recycle bin there is no file, the size of c drive has not increased and again when i running treesize it is showing same 11.5 gb space.

    It is probably due to unaccesibility of system volume folder.

    Now using third party apps, i can give access to my self and delete the folders (if i can). But i am scared that it shoudn't corrupt my system.

    Any thoughts?
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  5. NavyLCDR New Member
    Just do a clean install of Windows 10 and also fix the problem you were trying to fix by doing the restore?
     
    NavyLCDR, Sep 10, 2017
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  6. jakkaas Win User
    The problem i was trying to fix using system restore got fixed some other way. I don't want to do clean install of windows
    I tried app called take ownership and gave myself access to the folder but then when went and tried to open the system volume folder, It showed messaged that i dont have access to folder.

    Probably i will go on with this decrease space for now being.
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  7. lx07 Win User
    This is what your system volume information folder should look like with no restore points:


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]


    I think you can go ahead and delete SystemRestore/AppxStaging. You can do this however you like - boot from external OS, recovery environment, install USB, Linux as you wish - any will give you authority. You could try even taking authority but this would be more complicated.

    There might be some table containing links and system restore might break but if you don't want to clean install yet then try it. Then turn on system protection, create a restore point and restore to it. That will prove if it works or not.

    I think your problem is due to this System Restore fails: AppxStaging %ProgramFiles%\WindowsApp 0x80070091 - Windows 10 Forums which is fixed now apparently.

    There might be some table containing links and system restore might break but if you don't want to clean install yet then try it - you have nothing to lose. Then turn on system protection, create a restore point and restore to it. That will prove if it works or not.

    If it doesn't work you don't lose anything - Windows will keep on working - just not system restore.
     
  8. jakkaas Win User

    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore

    Thank you for your reply and time

    I understood that i can delete the SystemRestore/AppxStaging files. the problem is that i don't know how to do it

    The thing is i am not a computer expert or IT guy. I am biology researcher who has learn few things about computer from google.

    The suggestion you are giving as to " boot from external OS, recovery environment, install USB, Linux as you wish" i dont know anything about it. I have never done booting. I can learn but i am scared that i may mess up.

    The link you have given shows taking ownership of "C:\Program Files\WindowsApps" but i need a way to gain access to C:\system volume. Delete the app folder and than again restore the ownership.

    Is there any easy way to do it without booting?
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  9. lx07 Win User
    Don't do that!

    If you take ownership of the whole C volume it will end in tears. You only want to delete the one directory "C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore\AppxStaging"

    Try these commands from an administrator powershell prompt - you can literally copy paste the whole contents of the box below Code: $folder="C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore\AppxStaging" # take ownership takeown /f "$folder" /r /d Y # Grant full rights to current user icacls "$folder" --% /grant "%USERDOMAIN%\%USERNAME%"Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore :(F) /t #delete it Remove-Item -recurse -force $folder[/quote] This is the results I get for the above - it fails as I don't have the AppxStaging directory. There is lots of red and error messages.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]


    and here is what is should look like for you (I deleted a different folder in the same directory by making $folder equal to something else) - nothing red and things saying success.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]
     
  10. jakkaas Win User
    This is the results I get for the above - it fails as I don't have the AppxStaging directory. There is lots of red and error messages.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]


    and here is what is should look like for you (I deleted a different folder in the same directory by making $folder equal to something else) - nothing red and things saying success.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]
    [/quote] I am taking a system backup now. Will try and let you know.

    Thank you for reply
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  11. OldMike65 Win User
    System restore does not always work very well, as you are now finding out. I've had mine completely turned off for a long time. I only use Macrium Reflect and only make complete image backups to a 2nd drive. Thats all you really need to do. Keep Windows restore off would be my suggestion for the future.
     
    OldMike65, Sep 10, 2017
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  12. jakkaas Win User
    This is the results I get for the above - it fails as I don't have the AppxStaging directory. There is lots of red and error messages.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]


    and here is what is should look like for you (I deleted a different folder in the same directory by making $folder equal to something else) - nothing red and things saying success.


    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore [​IMG]
    [/quote] I tried this command and all was going successful. I could see that i was granted permission for all the files. Then deletion started and it was going well until all command started becoming red. [see the screenshot]
    Attachment 152797


    Using treesize i can see that 2 gb of space has been decreased.

    Attachment 152798


    Any idea what went wrong?

    In between my edge history got deleted.

    Also now using treesize i directly opened the AppxStaging folder and tried deleting it. It showing deleting but still folder and subfolders are not deleted. Folder are not seen in recycle bin.

    so now i have the access. the question is how to delete it?
    Edit :
    It seems that i still don't have full access to the remaining folder. I can just read and write over it.
     
    jakkaas, Sep 10, 2017
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  13. lx07 Win User

    Around 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore

    I can't see your picture for some reason.

    That is normal - deleting from the command line (or treesize) immediately deletes things - it doesn't put them in recycle bin.

    You mean you can't delete it?

    Try the command icacls "C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore\whatever" to see the permissions. Here are mine for the root directory but post your for the directory you can't delete. Code: c:\>icacls "C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore" C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore X201\HaliAround 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore :(F) BUILTIN\AdministratorsAround 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore :(OI)(CI)(F) NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMAround 12-15 gb decrease in C drive after unsuccessful system restore :(OI)(CI)(F) Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files[/quote] Please also post the owner with the "dir /a /q "Whatever directory" command like this: Code: c:\>dir /a /q "C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore" Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 63D0-2EE0 Directory of C:\System Volume Information\SystemRestore 11-Sep-17 16:34 <DIR> X201\Hali . 11-Sep-17 16:34 <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators .. 0 File(s) 0 bytes 2 Dir(s) 19,505,348,608 bytes free[/quote]
     
  14. sygnus21 Win User
    After reading this entire thread I have to wonder if anyone thought about the windows.old folder? Could it be the culprit?

    Just a thought.
     
    sygnus21, Sep 10, 2017
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  15. lx07 Win User
    Not unless there are hard links from Windows.old to "System Volume Information". I don't know if that is even possible. Even if it was it would be a terrible bug as restore points are supposed to contain the information to revert - not contain information to run.

    In any case disk clean-up gets rid of Windows.old - @OldMike (and perhaps someone else) suggested that some time ago.

    The problem here is how to delete rubbish from "C:\System Volume Information" that should (but hasn't) been deleted by turning off system protection.

    I did see a couple of threads on MS website where they just gave up and clean installed - this is an option of course.

    Ideally if it is possible to take ownership and delete this junk it would be better for the OP. If not then perhaps someone else can explain booting from a PE environment as my communication skills aren't great.
     
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