Windows 10: Bootup Takes Two Tries

Exceeds the requirements big time: AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core 2.10 Ghz; 4 GB RAM; x64 Processor; 320 GB HDD

When I first got the machine, it had Vista preinstalled, which I took off and installed Windows 7. When Windows 8 came out, I formatted the hard drive and installed Windows 8; updated through the Microsoft Store to Windows 8.1 and then to Windows 8.1.1. I have never made it a dual boot system.

Whoops! No, no, no, I don't have to press Esc to boot . . . In order to boot from DVD or Jump Drive, I have to press Esc. I just thought it strange that the boot failure barely showed the "Press Esc, etc. . . . message, but the successful boot showed the message long enough to be understood and acted upon. Sorry I misled you.

Will do, but it's gonna be a day or so. Hubby's anemic and needs some blood, which will be an all day affair tomorrow.

It'll take a couple days to get the homework done. *Smile BTW, I also have an HP Pavilion g Series laptop that came with Windows 7 which was uninstalled and replaced with Windows 10. That one hasn't given me a minute's trouble.

Thanks for the help.

 

Also check for the SSD firmware update.

 

Urk! What's that!? And how do I do it?

This is my first experience with SSD. Also, this problem happened with the old hard drive too.

 

Ok, no sweat - take care of your husband first.

I'm still a bit confused. The esc is only required when booting from a DVD (jump drive should boot with only a Boot order menu change - without a timer to select).

As I now understand it: You don't ever have to hit esc, you were just describing that the first boot flashes by too quickly, but on the 2nd boot you can read the msg. The question is: Why are you seeing the esc msg at all.

The issue existed on the spinner with 8.1 update 1 before the SSD was installed and Win10 put on it.

Is there a bcdtext.txt file on your desktop?
Yes? Please attach that file to your next post.

The other requests for information, Disk management screen shot and is the system booted UEFI or legacy, would also be helpful.

Thanks,

Bill
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Oops, thought I had posted this:





The other hard drive was completely removed from the laptop. I do wish they'd make laptops with room for more than one hard drive!

Thanks!

 

Thanks, the disk mgmnt looks fine. I'm not sure why the System Reserved is 350 MB though-more research for me, but I'm pretty sure it's not contributing to the issue.

Unfrotunately, the system is from HP - you won't have many options in BIOS. Look though the settings and see if there is any UEFI boot or Secure boot option - don't change anything, just post the setting. A camera shot is fine if you want to do that.

There are laptops with two drives (I forget the mfgr). I think Lenovo makes a laptop that you can swap out the optical drive and put a 2nd HD drive in it's place.

Bill
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Do you have Fast Boot enabled in BIOS setup?

Can we see pics of your other BIOS Advanced and Boot settings?

Have you unchecked everything in msconfig>Services after ticking the box to Hide all MS Services, and then disabled everything in msconfig>Startup?

 

The clean boot tutorial was followed, but not to the letter. Perhaps misunderstanding the instructions, MS services were disabled - this bricked the system and resulted in a reinstall. The key information was that there were no services other than MS services - if that's still the case, Wynona is good on that front.

It would be helpful to see the BIOS settings as Greg requested.

The behavior seems to follow a start with a disc in the optical drive (the ESC key sequence).
If there's no disc in the DVD drive, then it would be good to know the Boot order (HD/DVD or DVD/HD).
It would also be good to know if you have any virtual CD roms installed (Daemon Tools?)

The last thing I thought of was the physical Optical Drive (OD) might be faulty. How comfortable are you with hardware. Removing an OD is fairly easy - a few screws, pull it out and you're done.

Hold off on this until the last thing to try - I'll try to locate the service manual that will provide detailed information specific to your machine.

It might be worthwhile to check for a ghost device in Device Mgr.
Create a new environment variable for your user
Right click This PC
Select Properties
Select Advanced system settings
Click Environment Variables... button (lower right area)
Click New... button under User Variables for username (top section)
Fill in the following fields
Variable name: devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices
Variable value: 1
Click OK (out of Environment Variables)
Click OK (out of system properties)

Open Device Manager
Select show hidden devices from the View mneu
expand each category
look for greyed out devices


Post screen shot(s) showing ghost devices
note: you can collapse any category that doesn't have any ghosts - also collapse legacy devices if present

 

Bill, I've written down all the things needed. So far, I have a few done, but I'm so tired I have to collapse. *Sad

Here's the URL for Speccy's look at my system:

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/6...ptglofGVGc0j5z

I also have the file that SaltGrass asked for, but I can't seem to get it to upload.

 

Wynona,

Thanks for going through all of the suggestions, this isn't a marathon - take your time and relax when warranted. *Smile

The bcdtext.txt file shouldn't be that large and the .txt type should be acceptable to the forums. You've attached screen shots before, so you know how attaching a file is accomplished.
abcdef.txt

I attached the text file above as a test - it worked ok for me (select file, upload, attach inline, done)

When you get the chance, try attaching the bcdtext.txt file again.

I'll look at the Speccy report and then the other things as you post them.

It just occurred to me that Win8 & Win10 can natively load disk images (ISO) files in a virtual DVD - take a look at This PC and see if any virtual DVDs exist. I don't recall seeing any in your Disk Mgmt screen shot, but that was a while ago.

Bill
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Speccy-1st glance
answered questions about media in DVD or virtual DVDs - not an issue (no media in phys drive, no virtual drives)

This will require more research - is it Speccy or is it Win10 preview or both?

The cannot initialize SPC.dll is probably Speccy - I'll run a report on my Win10 machine to compare.

Summary
Operating System: Windows Technical Preview 64-bit
CPU: Cannot initialize SPC dll
RAM: Cannot initialize SPC dll
Motherboard: Cannot initialize SPC dll
Graphics: Cannot initialize SPC dll
Storage: 223GB Patriot Blaze SSD ATA Device (SSD)
Optical Drives: TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633L
Audio: IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
The Stopped services are related to Hyper-V, they're just a notation for me to remember that I need more information about normal services in Win10.

Services
Stopped: vmicguestinterface
Stopped: vmicheartbeat
Stopped: vmickvpexchange
Stopped: vmicrdv
Stopped: vmicshutdown
Stopped: vmictimesync
Stopped: vmicvss
Bill
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I'm just staging information at this point.

There are no actions suggested in this post ... just information for later use.

dv7 Service manual (PDF)dv7 SvcMan[pg44]- remove Optical Drive.pdf
HP Pavilion dv7-1245dx:
Product support
Software & driver downloads (OS: Windows7 x64)

Unfortunately the Speccy report could not tell me the BIOS version. Please look at System Information to see if the update is newer than what's on your machine.

Don't update BIOS, just post the current BIOS version

WinFlash for HP Notebook System BIOS (for Notebooks with AMD Processors)Released: 2009-08-25
File name: sp45071.exe [1/1, 3.69M]
Version: F.49 Rev. (note: there is no Rev. letter on the website either - I thought I missed part of the version)
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows Vista
Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows Vista (64-bit)
Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)Fix/Enhancement: Updates the Computrace OPROM to support the next generation of Microsoft Windows Operating Systems.

Previous BIOS versions

 

OK, I still couldn't get it to upload, so I cut and pasted. Just try keeping StarFerret down!


Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
default {current}
resumeobject {76bb2b20-52e7-11e4-8c4c-8a3ac99b1a9a}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Technical Preview
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {fc84eb6d-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
integrityservices Enable
recoveryenabled Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {76bb2b20-52e7-11e4-8c4c-8a3ac99b1a9a}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {fc84eb6d-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
device ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{fc84eb6e-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
path \windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Recovery Environment
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
displaymessage Recovery
displaymessageoverride Recovery
osdevice ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{fc84eb6e-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
systemroot \windows
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
winpe Yes
Resume from Hibernate
---------------------
identifier {76bb2b20-52e7-11e4-8c4c-8a3ac99b1a9a}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
description Windows Resume Application
locale en-US
inherit {resumeloadersettings}
recoverysequence {fc84eb6d-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
recoveryenabled Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
filedevice partition=C:
filepath \hiberfil.sys
bootmenupolicy Standard
debugoptionenabled No
Windows Memory Tester
---------------------
identifier {memdiag}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
path \boot\memtest.exe
description Windows Memory Diagnostic
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
badmemoryaccess Yes
EMS Settings
------------
identifier {emssettings}
bootems No
Debugger Settings
-----------------
identifier {dbgsettings}
debugtype Serial
debugport 1
baudrate 115200
RAM Defects
-----------
identifier {badmemory}
Global Settings
---------------
identifier {globalsettings}
inherit {dbgsettings}
{emssettings}
{badmemory}
Boot Loader Settings
--------------------
identifier {bootloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}
{hypervisorsettings}
Hypervisor Settings
-------------------
identifier {hypervisorsettings}
hypervisordebugtype Serial
hypervisordebugport 1
hypervisorbaudrate 115200
Resume Loader Settings
----------------------
identifier {resumeloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}
Device options
--------------
identifier {fc84eb6e-527a-11e4-bd61-a53c4dffd15e}
description Windows Recovery
ramdisksdidevice partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
ramdisksdipath \Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi

 

Here's a snippet of the attempted upload. I got to there, but couldn't get the Upload button to work.






As you see, the image uploaded fine, but the text wouldn't.

Here's a snippet of the top of my Reply window:





Thanks for sticking with me,

 

The BCD listing looks fine. To upload a text file, look at the Advanced Reply window and use the Paperclip. Since this forum is a little different from the Windows 8 one, there may be something different about the way you upload files.

You stated the computer was an "Entertainment" system. Did it have any special ability to view media without needing to actually boot the system? I just remember seeing some commercials touting such a system, but I do not remember the manufacturer.

Have you tried booting to some other media, such as an install DVD? I suppose you did when you installed Windows 10, was double booting required then? Sorry if you have already answered this.

It does sound a little like Windows 8 is having problems with some device on your system. It might start loading one driver and then change something or disable the device on the second try. If it only does it on a cold boot, that would seem to support such a situation. Nothing showing in Device Manager and no problem devices showing in msinfo32.exe?