Windows 10: BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game

Discus and support BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game in Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging to solve the problem; So am I gonna need to get some external hard drives or something to back everything up and then do tests or what should I do Discussion in 'Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging' started by Nick2510, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. Nick2510 Win User

    BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game


    So am I gonna need to get some external hard drives or something to back everything up and then do tests or what should I do
     
    Nick2510, Oct 13, 2017
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  2. zbook New Member

    These are some options:
    1) backup all important files to another drive (now and in the future)
    2) backup all important files to the cloud (now and in the future)
    3) make a backup image of the drive using Macrium: (now and in the future)
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free
    4) place the backup image onto another drive (now and in the future)
    5) create a restore point (in the future when all of the troubleshooting is completed)

    The above steps are useful in case you get failure too boot, unexpected upgrade problems, and malware such as ransomware.

    For troubleshooting if you can clean install Windows most of the confound factors will be removed and the hardware with minimal software can be better evaluated.

    The alternative is to use the computer in safe mode for a significant period of time to see if you do or don't get bsod or other problems.

    With the clean install 'vanilla type" method there needs to be time to evaluate the stability or instability (without any updates, with updates of Microsoft drivers, with Microsoft updates of non-Microsoft drivers, slowly installing drivers, hardware testing, etc.)
     
    zbook, Oct 13, 2017
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  3. Nick2510 Win User
    Ahhh this is a really horrible situation. I was really hoping the bad RAM was the reason for it. What is strange though is that with just the 1 RAM inside, the BSOD are far less frequent, I only had 1 since. While with both inside, it was happening multiple times a day. Now it just happened with GTA 5 but games where it happened all the time are fine now. I might need to get an IT guy or something because this is far above my capabilities.
     
    Nick2510, Oct 14, 2017
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  4. Nick2510 Win User

    BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game

    Update
    I backed up important stuff to google drive and reinstalled windows
    I started copying some stuff back from google drive and when I downloaded my "Documents" folder the PC froze (cursor and everything) and I had to reset which is the first time that happened while not gaming. I deleted that folder, could it be something in there? Or is it more likely a faulty piece of hardware. I didnt even install any drivers back yet
    EDIT: Freezes are happening as often as ever while gaming, even after the reinstall. I wish I knew which PC part to replace at least
     
    Nick2510, Nov 23, 2017
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  5. zbook New Member
    If you can back up all of the files onto another drive and make a backup image then you can start with a "vanilla type" clean install.
    This will be a clean install without windows updates.
    If there are no bsod, freezes, display artifacts, temperature problems then move to windows updates.
    So far there are only Windows installations of non-Microsoft drivers.
    Then monitoring for a period of time to observe stability or instability 1 driver is added.
    Then after a period of time the 2nd driver is added.
    This can take 2 weeks to look for stability / instability /freezing /display artifacts, temperature problems etc.
    If the vanilla installation still has freezes then it will be part removal to look for the malfunctioning component.
    If you can perform a "vanilla type" clean install this may produce the needed information.
    The time period is important to be able to monitor stability / instability.
     
    zbook, Nov 23, 2017
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  6. Nick2510 Win User
    I dont know what a vanilla install is. I went into reset this PC and remove everything. I got a freeze before I even installed anything.
     
    Nick2510, Nov 24, 2017
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  7. Nick2510 Win User
    After this reset it is happening much more often, even with games that arent demanding at all. I would post the zip file with logs but dm_log_collector isnt working for me now, it says that it created the zip file on my desktop but it didnt.
    The common theme between these Blue screens is that google chrome is on in the background, I´ll try not using it for a while
     
    Nick2510, Nov 24, 2017
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  8. Nick2510 Win User

    BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game

    Okay i just got a BSOD (machine check exception) while I was away from my PC, without even playing a game. Its significantly worse now after the PC reset and I cant do much of anything on it now.
     
    Nick2510, Nov 24, 2017
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  9. zbook New Member
    The bugchecks had displayed 9c and 0x124 WHEA.
    There was malfuntioning RAM which was removed.
    The bugchecks indicate a problem with the CPU.
    To get clearer information you can remove many confounding factors by performing a clean install.
    When performing a clean install there is a "vanilla type"
    In the vanilla type" clean install miniminal software is installed so that there are few confounding factors.
    So all partitions are removed, the operating system is reinstalled with no internet access.
    At this point the computer has its hardware and an operating system that has not had windows updates and does not have any installed drivers other than default drivers.
    The computer is then observed for BSOD with this computer environment.
    If there are BSOD then this indicates problems with the hardware.
    If there are no BSOD problems then next step is to allow windows updates. Again no drivers are installed.
    Then the computer is evaluated with windows updates.
    If there are no BSOD the drivers are slowly added over time to see if a problematic driver is found.
    So so far the bugchecks have indicated a hardware problem with the CPU.
    If you want additional information and some more clarity you can perform the clean install "vanilla type" to see if the hardware with on a non-updated operating system produces BSOD.
     
    zbook, Nov 24, 2017
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  10. Nick2510 Win User
    I see what you mean.
    I was just typing that it would be hard to see if I get BSOD when it only happens during games, and only once outside of one...when I suddently got a blue screen so. I guess now that the reinstall somehow caused them to happen much more often, I could test it that way. I wish I had a spare CPU to try it with that.

    So this vanilla clean install is basically what I did, I just have to unplug it from the internet so that it doesnt update?
     
    Nick2510, Nov 25, 2017
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  11. zbook New Member
    Many things happen and they can have known cause and effect or by conincidence or chance.
    So the clean install is a deliberate method to not have software, files, drivers, etc. that could make finding a cause and effect more challenging.
    If you are able to perform a clean install "vanilla type" that would be operating system only with no updates.
    Then if there are no bsod you can slowly install other software but it takes patience so that there is sufficient time to check for BSOD.
    The vanilla install has not yet been done and if you are interested in planning this method it will take time to monitor the computer in various settings. The aim is to find cause and effect or if its not software than have sufficient time to find hardware problems.
     
    zbook, Apr 5, 2018
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