Windows 10: Can someone tell if Windows 9 will not be like windows 8?

I guess We can now really quote Seven of Nine of Borg, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated, your life as you have known it is over, you will service us.

Maybe a Maqui (sp?) tech style resistance movement is in order.

I have used MS WIN since the days of no hard drive and 5 1/4 " floppy disks, and I always felt that MS much like Darth Vader could give a rats tail about the consumer or ala movie TRON, the (end) user.....

I also feel that regardless of how much processor ability or power We get, the M.S. designed O.S. will always slow things down.
And your computer will not ever be under your direct control.
BORG style M.S. cheeto eating Tech-nO/nerd-O-drones will 7 dominate & control you.

 

Well, My two cents here. I believe any objective look at Windows 8 indicates it is a bad mistake by Microsoft. Is it a terrible OS? No. I have windows 8 on a laptop and 8.1 in a VM on my windows 7 machine and on a phone. Do I use them? very rarely. Can I use them, certainly. I can do most things that I need to do. It just seems to me that it is more difficult and less efficient than Windows 7. There are certain things I do like about 8, but, truthfully, not many. Is Windows 8 a terrible mistake for MS. Yes, as it stands at the moment. Could it be fixed to where it could be a good desktop OS, certainly and fairly easily too. I still say, as I have said all along, Windows 8 is a Phone/tablet OS and putting it on a desktop was more of an afterthought. I am not a Windows 8 hater. If you like it and find it useful to you and your activities, I say great and I'm sincerely happy for you. I believe I can say safely that with the overwhelming majority of desktop users, Windows 8 is a flop that has done great harm to Microsoft. I fail to see why MS refused to listen to the public during all the pre release offerings. After all, who is it that actually buys their products.

On a more personal note, I seriously object to anyone telling me, this is what you will get and what you will use. Remember all the advertising when 7 was released? 'I'm a PC, and Windows was my Idea.' and there was the 'have Windows your way'. With 8 it seemed to be, this is windows the way I want it and you will have to get used to it. The 2 philosophies are diametrically opposed to each other, as I see it. My biggest question is why?

In all of the discussions I have been a party to about 8, one word is common in all of them. Choice. I believe 90% of the objections to 8 can easily be resolved by giving us a choice in how I want to run it. There's little doubt that everyone who reads this have certain things they would like to see changed and none of them would be the same. MS made a feeble attempt in doing that with 8.1. It was simply not enough and not as much as needed. This is not a 'one size fits all' world, and never will be. I submit that windows 9 could be to windows 8 what Windows 7 was to Vista, A booming success. Will it be? Who knows? The infamous words of Nancy Pelosi ' You'll have to pass the bill to see what's in it', comes to mind.

MS has the opportunity to turn a not so well received OS into a pretty darn good one. My cynical nature makes me believe there was a reason it happened the way it did. My biggest hope is MS is going to make 9 into a very good os. They could simply do the overwhelming majority of that very easily. Let me have aero if I want it or turn it off if I prefer, let me have a start button or let me turn it off if I choose, let me boot to the desktop or the start menu, if I prefer. It's really pretty simple. Yet, they knew that when 8 was released. I syill have to ask why. MS usually has a reason for what they do. What was this one?

I have a Windows Phone, and really like it. As with anything there are changes I would make, but I like it , but that is what this OS was built for. Now, make Windows 9 a desktop OS because no matter what the 'experts' say, the desktop will not be going away any time soon. I hope they use the opportunity wisely in windows 9, it has the potential for a great OS.

 

What do you mean, 'Back to"?

I never left it. I still run a lot of DOS stuff in 'DOS-Box', including Win 3.1 and Office 4.


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Well, you've always had the option to turn it off if you didn't like it or your machine wasn't powerful enough to run it.

That's all we want now, the option to turn it back on.

That is not a big ask, nor is it an unreasonable one.

Just why MS is being so un-cooperative on this matter is not clear. The claim that it 'uses resources' simply isn't valid, and, frankly, never was.


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Probably when all's said and done they will do what they want to do and hope the consumers will come around to their way of thinking. *Smile

 

Microsoft has the right to develop a product in any way they choose. If the consumer doesn't buy that product, then they will have to either rethink their position, or lose market share.

 

Now that is a bit too steep for me - but interesting.

 

That is certainly right. Problem is that half of the world and our economy depend on their products. As a 'private' user I can chose other things. But for big companies and goverment agencies switching to the wrong OS implies huge cost and disruption.

Assume the oil supply would be cut in half. That would have a much smaller impact on all of us than the loss of a viable MS OS.

 

In the past the MO has been to use a standard developed by someone else. Then make changes so that the original standard bearer is no longer "compatible." When you're the 800 LB gorilla you can do bizarre stuff like that.. unfortunately.

 

Microsoft wouldn't last very long as a company, if big corporations and government agencies didn't purchase their software. My point had more to do with the development of a cross platform OS, over a more traditional desktop. Microsoft has the right to develope software they think will sell, but if the consumer doesn't buy it, then Microsoft has to change course, like they are doing with 8.1 and now the 8.1 Update, or they will lose market share.

 

+1 Very well said I agree 100% if MS would just give us a choice I think most of the Windows 8 issues would have been avoided. -WS

 

I'd love it if they fixed it. I suspect they will.

 

Hi there

"Modern" look can be Horrible and cold too -- like those awful Sparse "loft Style" apartments with that dark "metallized / semi brick minimalist" look which is a cross between a typical Moscow sleazy nightclub and a noisy hotel and come with a stratospheric price tag as well - give me a nice cluttered looks lived in place with some Real wooden floors (not that synthetic laminate stuff) and some SOLID real craftsmen produced furniture.

"Modern" styles have a habit of getting out of date very quickly -- Classic stuff "improves with age". !!!!

Until something can DECENTLY replace a mouse, keyboard AND monitor (these days I use at least TWO - often three large ones) then a DESKTOP OS will stay around.

WZOR - often good for leaks / whispers about coming Windows releases implies that W9 might even be here at least in a lab as a POC before the end of the year but might have significant Cloud and subscription stuff in it too. That battle is still going on apparently in Redmond's hallowed halls.

The generation AFTER the current one might start to tire of mobiles -- so we shall see what they produce - but I can't see the PC going the way of the dodo any time soon.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Hi

I'm just hoping for something a little more PC friendly.

The idea of creating a version of Windows that doesn't have windows was mystifying to me.

I run multiple applications all the time.

When I create 3D textures or videos I jump back and forth between applications constantly.

I work on the texture in Photoshop, then I load the texture on the 3D object, then back to Photoshop etc.

When I work on print design it's even worse, I jump from Indesign to Photoshop, to Word, to Illustrator, to Windows Explorer and back to Indesign again.

I use snap to open windows side by side constantly.

Metro just doesn't do that well.

Fortunately between Modermix and Classic Shell I can still do that from the desktop.

The one thing that I'm pretty sure Windows 9 will have is a integrated desktop setup with Windows and a task bar setting for mouse and keyboard users, that still allows for multitasking, and can be booted to by defualt.

I could use metro if I only emailed, browsed the internet, and typed Word documents, or for gaming.

But for serious stuff you still need to have "Windows" and a taskbar.

Mike

 

A "nutshell" statement if ever I saw one. *Smile