Windows 10: Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version??

Discus and support Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version?? in Windows 10 Gaming to solve the problem; Greetings. After Creator Fall is installed some (but not all??) dx11 games starts with a black monitor. ctrl+alt+del to start task manager and kill... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Gaming' started by Burgurne, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. Burgurne Win User

    Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version??


    Greetings.
    After Creator Fall is installed some (but not all??) dx11 games starts with a black monitor. ctrl+alt+del to start task manager and kill the game. Reboot does not help. reinstall the game does not help, uninstall graphic driver (and reinstall of course) does not help.

    But reinstall the directX version from "Project Car 2", do fix it!!! Then every game works fine, undtil next reboot. Then the same games starts with a blank monitor.

    Is this a problem that can be solved with a clean install? Or any other ideas? *Smile

    :)
     
    Burgurne, Oct 19, 2017
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  2. HeatherY. Win User
    HeatherY., Oct 19, 2017
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  3. Frame rates may drop on some DirectX 9 games at high fps (>120fps) after installing Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

    Since installing the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, the average frame rate of my DirectX 9 game has dropped when I play at high frame rates (e.g. > 120 fps) in full-screen mode. Is there something I can do to fix this?
     
    Catherine Cus., Oct 19, 2017
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  4. f14tomcat Win User

    Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version??

    I don't do gaming, but here is something very similar on the Steam Forum. Take a quick look:

    Post Windows 10 Upgrade - All Steam Games Black Screen With Sound :: Help and Tips

    Black screen on startup with game running in the background / no signal fix :: Alien: Isolation General Discussions
     
    f14tomcat, Oct 19, 2017
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  5. Burgurne Win User
    Yes, the error i your link loos a lot like mine, but not exactly. When I alt tab to desktop the game window is still just a black square, but yes, the game is still running. I will try to see if this fixes it
     
    Burgurne, Oct 19, 2017
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  6. FerchogtX Win User
    Well... seems latest stable drivers have a lot of issues (specially VGAs), try to revert to an older version and see if the games go back to normal, if not, your best bet is trying betas to see if the issues are fixed.

    AMD cards have a similar issue, but seems they are working on them in the beta drivers.
     
    FerchogtX, Oct 19, 2017
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  7. f14tomcat Win User
    Saw something in Feedback that may help. Disable your on-board graphics (Intel HD something?) and just run the NVidia.


    Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version?? [​IMG]
     
    f14tomcat, Oct 19, 2017
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  8. sygnus21 Win User

    Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version??

    DirectX doesn't seem to be the problem, but rather a GPU driver issue. BTW I just finished playing around with both Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and Fallout: New Vegas and had no issues. I'm running a AMD R9 Fury card using the latest Crimson drivers - the same ones before the FCU update.

    Anyway try looking at your GPU drivers.

    Edit to say these are Steam based games. Next try is some Origin games like Dragon Age, and Mass Effect. Will post any errors.
     
    sygnus21, Oct 19, 2017
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  9. Burgurne Win User
    Onboard is disabled in BIOS.

    Driver for Nvidia is the same as before FCU. FCU must have made "something" to directx, as the error is completely gone when installing the directX version from the "Project Car 2" install-dir. Not just PC2 is working, but all my dx 11 games. Until reboot.

    I don't have the Alien game mentioned in #1 link. I'm trying to look for the same for F1 2016, but without finding these files. So I can't test it this way.

    I guess I have to either revert back to before FCU, or reinstall directx every time I want to play a game *sarc
     
    Burgurne, Oct 19, 2017
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  10. sygnus21 Win User
    You don't need to reinstall DirectX every time you want to play a game unless you choose to do so *sarc

    What you can do is run this and all should be good - DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)
     
    sygnus21, Oct 20, 2017
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  11. Burgurne Win User
    I have now tried your version #8, and it is the same. It works until reboot, and then the games won't show graphic again. If I then reinstall from your link, everything works until next reboot. So it does not solve it anymore than the version from Project Cars 2.
     
    Burgurne, Oct 20, 2017
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  12. FerchogtX Win User
    Wow... I assume this affects decoding and programs that rely on DX11 rendering as well.
    This only means, not FCU for me... skipping this version entirely.

    Way to go MS...
     
    FerchogtX, Oct 21, 2017
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  13. sygnus21 Win User

    Creators Fall and DirectX ... new version??

    Yeah, because the OP's issue is a huge indicator of issues to follow *sarc

    I guess it wouldn't help to know there are many many more users here without issues would there? *Huh
     
    sygnus21, Oct 21, 2017
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  14. Burgurne Win User
    A little news on my issue. Went back to an older graphic driver, and now I can clear the issue with black screen without reinstall directx after every reboot. Some games still starts with black screen, but now I can tap on the monitors "sync-rate" button, to go from 144 to 60 hz, then the picture is on, I then tap a coupple of times again, and now the game is showing picture in 144hz mode, just as the monitor was in when the game started. Is this giving any info to where to look for the error?
    This I have to do every time I start one of the faulty games.
     
    Burgurne, Oct 21, 2017
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  15. Shh Drew - that sounds like logic *Wink

    Graphics driver. What version are you running? 378.92?

    Roll back to a previous version.

    The Fall update has gone to WDDM 2.3 and historically it takes a few drivers/KB updates to sort these these things out.
     
    SmartEyeball, Oct 21, 2017
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