Windows 10: Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?

Discus and support Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have? in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; On the 29th are insiders going to have to download and install basically what we already have all over again? Wouldn't it make more sense for MS to... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by fracking4oil, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. sgage Win User

    Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?


    That's what I would expect, but who knows. Nobody here. You'd be better off asking at a MS forum.
     
    sgage, Jul 26, 2015
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  2. BunnyJ New Member

    Ah.. no. Keep Win8.1 as is and upgrade when it's your turn. That simple. And we don't really know what will come down on the 29th with the upgrade. I'm speculating that it will be patches but it could be more.

    Just relax and see what happens on the 29th.
     
    BunnyJ, Jul 26, 2015
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  3. What I'm saying is, I currently don't have Windows 8.1 installed just Win 10 from ISO (build 10162 updated to 10240). So I guess I should start working on getting 8.1 back on my system (already reserved prior)?
     
    fracking4oil, Jul 26, 2015
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  4. BunnyJ New Member

    Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?

    You might get the upgrade but the best bet might be to reinstall WIn8.1 and go from there. What I did was to upgrade 10240 over my activated Win8.1 and so far it works fine and I've been getting all of the updates

    I suspect that on the 29th I should get the final upgrade.
     
    BunnyJ, Jul 26, 2015
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  5. Omega Win User
    Allowing people to enter their old product keys would have been too logical, so we'll need to reinstall and upgrade instead... or just stay as an Insider and not worry about it.
     
    Omega, Jul 26, 2015
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  6. Mystere Win User
    Who says we will have to? You're making a lot of assumptions.

    Fact is, we just don't know. If the final release is a new build number, you'll have to go through a whole build upgrade. If it's not, then chances are it will likely just be patches. Hard to say until the day of...
     
    Mystere, Jul 26, 2015
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  7. Rocky Win User
  8. Ztruker Win User

    Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?

    Ztruker, Jul 26, 2015
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  9. tracit99 Win User
    But US is a choice.
     
    tracit99, Jul 26, 2015
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  10. Rocky Win User
    I've lived in the US for so long that I forgot that there was an A involved.
     
    Rocky, Jul 26, 2015
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  11. Mr E is right - we just don't know.

    If MS follows naming convention, then the release will be 10.1.0 - the .1 signifies production, not beta code. That alone means everything will have to have been compiled or bound to libraries as a new release.

    I expect a download and upgrate to be required

    The branch is probably th2, which will be automagically updated the same way fbl_impressive was changed to th1.
    Builds from th2 | BuildFeed
    Strike that ...

    The production release will most likely come from windowsupdate.com - MS's digital repository.
     
    Slartybart, Jul 26, 2015
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  12. Rocky Win User
    At this point it is anybody's guess if the update on the 29th will be a complete OS or just a small definition installation.
     
    Rocky, Jul 26, 2015
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  13. Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?

    My guess, if a new build doesn't come down the pipe by then well just get a small update/patch to give us the option to go Consumer Release or stay in the Insiders program. If they do release a new build you'll be doing another upgrade via Windows update first.
     
    alphanumeric, Jul 26, 2015
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  14. I'm not making any assumptions, I'm asking questions because so many others are making assumptions that insiders will be hogging the servers thus no one but insiders will get Win 10 until days or even weeks later.
     
    fracking4oil, Jul 26, 2015
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  15. No, MS said the 29th and that means a production release on the 29th. All hell would break loose if they missed the date. Pigs would learn how to fly and Zombies would eat your plants. *Wink

    Who gets it is the loop hole. Insiders were told they are first in line ... as long as the code gets delivered, MS met the date.

    One company I worked for shipped empty boxes because the date for the product had arrived and the product wasn't ready, another company sent blank tapes out. I didn't work for either company very long after those shenanigans.

    As long as something gets delivered, the company can claim that the date they chose was met.

    QVC is taking orders for machines pre-loaded with Win 10, but the ship date is delayed (Dell->5 August and HP->20 August). Even Newegg slipped the date for boxed Win10 to 31 July.

    Anyway, I've sqaid it before ... 20 August looks like a real date to expect Win10 on non-Insider machines - the MS Stores have a global event - um event at all stores on that date and it seems to match up nicely. Insiders test the real code again - real upgrades, real questions and hopefully real answers from MS. The product will be 'out' and there won't be the need for as much ambiguity.
     
    Slartybart, Jul 26, 2015
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