Windows 10: FRC, Dithering, modified blanking etc with win 10 but not with win 7 on same hardware?

Hi,​

I do hope someone here will be able to help me find a solution so I will be able to use the computer again. Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10? Or is there really no solution but reverting to Windows 7?​

​

I am highly sensitive to various sources of visual instability/ 'dancing pixels' / flicker such as CRT's low refresh rates, LCD's dithering, FRC etc. These lead to eyestrain, nausea, headaches and other symptoms.​

​

Until recently I had Windows 7 home premium SP1(64-bit), 16-color depth, on the following hardware, and had no eye strain or other symptoms.​

​

Hardware specifications: ​

Display (true 8-bit IPS, CCFL backlighting) NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi2, 1920x1200, DVI-D cable ​

Motherboard ASUS P8H77-M / CSM​

Processor Intel i5-3470 CPU@ 3.20GHz 6MB 1155 QUAD​

RAM 8GB (2x4 DDR3)​

GPU Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 1GB ​

​

I am not a gamer, nor do I watch videos. Yet, for some reason in all previous computers, the onboard Graphics or simple Graphic cards did present the 1920x1200 resolution, but the dedicated GPU improved something, and helped me avoid the eye strain and other symptoms.​

​

About a month ago, I added an SSD hard drive, and a clean install of windows 10 (64-bit) on this SSD. I have installed all the relevant updates and tried to change various settings. However, since I installed Windows 10, I can hardly look at the display. I have eye strain, nausea, headaches, and all other symptoms. ​

​

I consulted whoever I could, but I have not been able to solve the problem. I have no technical background. ​

​

I consulted whoever I could, but I have no technical background. Therefore, I apologize for using 'lake' terms rather than technical ones, as well as for providing the following information which may not irrelevant or inaccurate. ​

I would appreciate it if someone would be able to note whether the following is correct:​

a. A true 8-bit IPS display should be able to cope with 32-bit color depth without dithering, FRC etc, if it gets the 'right input'.​

b. However, it is possible that the display does not get the 'right input' from windows 10, because of issues that are related to the fact that whereas Windows 7 supported also 16-bit-color depth, Windows 10 supports 32-bit color depth.​

c. The problem may be associated with the desktop windows manager (DWM), that works differently, and which cannot be disabled or something like that. ​

d. If the issue is indeed caused by the way Windows 10 provides the information to the display, then a 10-bit display or a different GPU will not solve the problem and the bottom line is that I cannot use Windows 10.​

​

​

I do not know what Windows 10 does (dithering, FRC, PWM, Blanking, FPS, refresh rate, or some other terms I am also not familiar with?) which causes my problems. ​

I really hope someone will be able to help me: ​

Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10? ​

Or is there really no solution but reverting to Windows 7?​

Thanks!​

:)

 

FRC, Dithering, modified blanking etc with win 10 but not with win 7 on same hardware?

Hi,

I do hope someone here will be able to help me find a solution so I will be able to use the computer again. Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10? Or is there really
no solution but reverting to Windows 7?



I am highly sensitive to various sources of visual instability/ 'dancing pixels' / flicker such as CRT's low refresh rates, LCD's dithering, FRC etc. These lead to eyestrain, nausea, headaches and other symptoms.



Until recently I had Windows 7 home premium SP1(64-bit),
16-color depth, on the following hardware, and had no eye strain or other symptoms.



Hardware specifications:

Display (true 8-bit IPS, CCFL backlighting) NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi2, 1920x1200, DVI-D cable

Motherboard ASUS P8H77-M / CSM

Processor Intel i5-3470 CPU@ 3.20GHz 6MB 1155 QUAD

RAM 8GB (2x4 DDR3)

GPU Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 1GB



I am not a gamer, nor do I watch videos. Yet, for some reason in all previous computers, the onboard Graphics or simple Graphic cards did present the 1920x1200 resolution, but the dedicated GPU improved something, and helped
me avoid the eye strain and other symptoms.



About a month ago, I added an SSD hard drive, and a clean install of windows 10
(64-bit) on this SSD. I have installed all the relevant updates and tried to change various settings. However, since I installed Windows 10,
I can hardly look at the display. I have eye strain, nausea, headaches, and all other symptoms.



I consulted whoever I could, but I have not been able to solve the problem. I have no technical background.



I consulted whoever I could, but I have no technical background. Therefore, I apologize for using 'lake' terms rather than technical ones, as well as for providing the following information which may not
irrelevant or inaccurate.

I would appreciate it if someone would be able to note whether the following is correct:

a.
A true 8-bit IPS display should be able to cope with 32-bit color depth without dithering, FRC etc, if it gets the 'right input'.

b.
However, it is possible that the display does not get the 'right input' from windows 10, because of issues that are related to the fact that whereas Windows 7 supported also 16-bit-color depth, Windows 10 supports
32-bit color depth.

c.
The problem may be associated with the desktop windows manager (DWM), that works differently, and which cannot be disabled or something like that.

d.
If the issue is indeed caused by the way Windows 10 provides the information to the display, then a 10-bit display or a different GPU will not solve the problem and the bottom line is that I cannot use Windows
10.





I do not know what Windows 10 does (dithering, FRC, PWM, Blanking, FPS, refresh rate, or some other terms I am also not familiar with?) which causes my problems.

I really hope someone will be able to help me:


Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10?


Or is there really no solution but reverting to Windows 7?

Thanks!

 

FRC, Dithering, modified blanking etc with win 10 but not with win 7 on same hardware?

Hi,

I do hope someone here will be able to help me find a solution so I will be able to use the computer again. Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10? Or is there really
no solution but reverting to Windows 7?



I am highly sensitive to various sources of visual instability/ 'dancing pixels' / flicker such as CRT's low refresh rates, LCD's dithering, FRC etc. These lead to eyestrain, nausea, headaches and other symptoms.



Until recently I had Windows 7 home premium SP1(64-bit),
16-color depth, on the following hardware, and had no eye strain or other symptoms.



Hardware specifications:

Display (true 8-bit IPS, CCFL backlighting) NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi2, 1920x1200, DVI-D cable

Motherboard ASUS P8H77-M / CSM

Processor Intel i5-3470 CPU@ 3.20GHz 6MB 1155 QUAD

RAM 8GB (2x4 DDR3)

GPU Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 1GB



I am not a gamer, nor do I watch videos. Yet, for some reason in all previous computers, the onboard Graphics or simple Graphic cards did present the 1920x1200 resolution, but the dedicated GPU improved something, and helped
me avoid the eye strain and other symptoms.



About a month ago, I added an SSD hard drive, and a clean install of windows 10
(64-bit) on this SSD. I have installed all the relevant updates and tried to change various settings. However, since I installed Windows 10,
I can hardly look at the display. I have eye strain, nausea, headaches, and all other symptoms.



I consulted whoever I could, but I have not been able to solve the problem. I have no technical background.



I consulted whoever I could, but I have no technical background. Therefore, I apologize for using 'lake' terms rather than technical ones, as well as for providing the following information which may not
irrelevant or inaccurate.

I would appreciate it if someone would be able to note whether the following is correct:

a.
A true 8-bit IPS display should be able to cope with 32-bit color depth without dithering, FRC etc, if it gets the 'right input'.

b.
However, it is possible that the display does not get the 'right input' from windows 10, because of issues that are related to the fact that whereas Windows 7 supported also 16-bit-color depth, Windows 10 supports
32-bit color depth.

c.
The problem may be associated with the desktop windows manager (DWM), that works differently, and which cannot be disabled or something like that.

d.
If the issue is indeed caused by the way Windows 10 provides the information to the display, then a 10-bit display or a different GPU will not solve the problem and the bottom line is that I cannot use Windows
10.

I do not know what Windows 10 does (dithering, FRC, PWM, Blanking, FPS, refresh rate, or some other terms I am also not familiar with?) which causes my problems.

I really hope someone will be able to help me:


Should I replace the monitor or the GPU in order to be able to use Windows 10?


Or is there really no solution but reverting to Windows 7?

Thanks!

 

Win 7 and Win 10 on network

I have home network with separate modem, router, and WAP's. My Windows 7 computer does NOT list the Windows 10 computers on network computer list but the Windows 10 computers network list DO list the Windows 7 computer.

Turned off firewalls, gave permissions, shared drives. Nothing allows Win 7 computer to access the Win 10 computers.

Any suggestions for a fix?