Windows 10: Get ready to pay more for apps on Windows Store

I can't help but think that figure of 1% was picked out of the air, it's a fact many do use 1 monitor however lots of people use more than 1 and the use of multiple monitors is increasing a lot.

5 years ago, no one had multiple monitors where i work, we in IT started moving to 2 monitors and soon after so did many other people in the business. Today, probably a third of the business use multiple monitors and it's only a third due to getting more monitors and graphics cards (where needed) signed off with Finance.

I'm not entirly sure if that's what Jimbo said but for the record you can obviously use multiple monitors on Windows 8 (i have 3 at work on Win8 and 3 at home on Win10

Agreed here... the interface from XP through to Win10 TP regardless of Single or Multiple monitors has never been an issue for me.

 

You got me, I did pluck that out of thin air, but regardless, the percentage would be small, unless you're talking about large specialised business.

With Windows 8 I was showing that you can have one interface across many devices, phone, tablet and PC, just because a lot of people rejected it doesn't mean it didn't work. A lot of people rejected it because they had to click to get on the desktop or they didn't know how to shut it down.

I personally think Windows 8 was the way to go but I understand that Microsoft had to do something or risk losing a lot of business. Hopefully Windows 10 will get them back on track, even though I own some Apple products and Android, I look forward to the day when all my devices will be Windows 10 or thereabouts.

 

Well in business IT typically prevents users for doing things like installing software. They also can set up the system to the users to provide the users what they need and block what they don't need to do their job. Windows 10 does allow the user to choose but also it allows business to make the business make the choice what you can do.

My organization standard is Windows 7 but our Windows server group have Windows 8.1 and they use 2 or 3 monitors.

 

I bet someday you will use a Metro app. Metro apps are basically templates that run over a web browser. They are designed to for simples tasks. Example: Directv's NFL Snnday Ticket. I click on the tile and the screens pop up with the games I want and I click the game with my HDMI cable connected. Without the app i have to go to the DirecTv website and find the link for NFL sunday ticket click on it and then login then pick the game. That is the advantage in Metro, Modern or universal apps. They take simple tasks using a web browser into a script for one task functions. In business Kronos time and attendance software allows managers to run a desktop app that manages employees buy defining them by skills to find replacements when workers call in sick. The users that are mobile have a client that uses GPS to clock in and the manager can view the location of where the users logged in. There are numerous ways the mobile apps and be integrated into a app client server type environment.

 

I don't disagree with you at all. At the moment, I don't need anything from the Store. That doesn't mean it won't change, though.

However, both examples you give are not for me. I let my Hubby, who won't touch a computer, watch the sports stuff on TV and I have long been out of the business world. BTW, DirecTV keeps trying to get us to subscribe to Sports stuff, but he says he doesn't need more than he has.

I have tried the Office for Windows 10 (Word, Excel and PowerPoint) and, limited as it is, think it's absolutely great that it's there for those who need it. I have a friend to whom I provide computer support who will be in Heaven with those.

I support senior citizens in my subdivision and I'm pretty sure I'll be helping them to upgrade to Windows 10 when the time comes. And yep, that will probably mean helping them get what they want from the Store.

 

Well, actually no. Universal Apps are the apps that work across all devices (including Windows Phone). There are three categories.

Universal Apps (part of the Universal App Platform, or UAP you may see it referred to).
Windows Apps (these are store apps)
Windows Desktop Apps (these are Win32 applications).

 

Of course you need the right tools for the job. If your job requires two windows open side by side, you either need a screen large enough to do that (using window tiling, or aero snap) or more than one monitor. Windows 8.1 and 10 work fine with both situations. Even with Metro apps, since you can have metro apps open on more than one screen, or you can have them split. (You couldn't have apps open on more than one screen in Windows 8, but this was added in 8.1).

Certainly, but this doesn't require having both apps open. In fact, many people get confused by that situation because they aren't sure which app they're pasting into.

Certainly, there are workflows where that may be beneficial, but for the most part you can just toggle between windows to compare.

Mobile phone screens are usually too small to deal with more than one thing. However, on larger mobile phones, like the Samsung Galaxy Note, and even the Galaxy S, they have the ability to show more than one app on screen at the same time. This is not something that's impossible to do in a mobile phone... it's simply a function of screen real-estate.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ho...SGH-I337ZWAATT

You have been arguing this for a long time, and it's simply not true. There's nothing inherently "single task" about a phone or tablet, and both Android and Windows have developed UI's to adapt to multitasking on these interfaces. Again, it's more about screen size than the fact that its mobile.

You're right. A desktop computer is not a mobile phone, nor is a mobile phone a desktop computer... THEY ARE BOTH STANDARDIZED COMPUTING DEVICES and can be used for any purpose. There is no reason whatsoever that a UI cannot work for both environments.

Every time you talk about about this stuff jimbo, you typically just show that you haven't bothered to see if MS already provides a solution to the problem you have built up in your head. Look up AppLocker. It addresses your issue of corporate app usage. It's built into Windows Enterprise. Microsoft provides local servers and the ability for enterprises to side-load applications. You're arguing things based on your consumer experience with Windows without ever having even looked at the corporate support tools for it.

And again, things are different for the enterprise. I suggest you actually look into the tools available. As for 10041, you know as well as everyone else that this is only the case in Technical Preview.

 

Thanks Mystere, you've said it a lot more eloquently than I could. I just wish people would be more open minded about Microsofts attempts at trying to unify these OSs. Sure there are plenty of things you'll never be able to do on a phone or tablet, but there are plenty that can be done.

After clean installing 10041 I'm starting to feel more confident about Microsofts attempts.

 

So you never plan on using MS Office newer than Office 2013? Or much of (if not most) future software?

 

Are you telling me that Microsoft Office is going to be a Metro App only? So far all Office versions I've got were not limited to (or even unavailable in) the Metro UI.

 

The new Office 2016 includes both Desktop and Universal versions of the apps.

 

Can you point out to any advantages of using the Universal version?

 

I'm not sure where this discussion is going, but it seems strange to me that people are arguing about the "advantages" of the Metro UI, whereas I only see restrictions. Please, enlighten me if I'm wrong, but it seems that

1. with Metro apps I cannot choose a window size and position as freely as in the usual interface. If that's true, then I don't see what's so good about it.

2. replacing menus with big tile-like buttons makes sense on a phone or tablet, but a desktop is neither. Why should a desktop look like a phone is not clear to me.

3. there is a difference between an OS and a GUI. Why not make Windows skinnable, so that anyone who cares can make it look whatever pleases them?

 

That is the one big advantage of 10 over 8.1--you can, even a specific desktop if you so wish.

 

Then what's the difference between these apps and normal windows? Say on the example of the two versions of Office 2016: why bother with two versions on the same desktop?