Windows 10: Get ready to pay more for apps on Windows Store

One is just an interface to the internet(modern app) like OneNote, and the other is "installed" and can be used offline like OneNote 2013.

 

A little more info you can find at 7tutorials and How-to-Geek.

 

Well, you only see restrictions because you clearly lack information.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Metro apps can be completely resized and positioned in Windows 10. What "restriction" are you referring to here?

You have some preconceived notion of what a "phone should look like" and what a "desktop should look like". There is no reason both can't look the same. That doesn't mean one looks like the other or vice versa. It means they are both using a similar approach that works for both scenarios.

Further, there's a gigantic blur now between a "desktop" and a phone or tablet, since desktops are more and more becoming touch enabled, as are laptops. It won't be long before no-touch is in the minority, so it makes no sense whatsoever to design a UI based on today for an OS that has to work for tomorrow and beyond.

This is how Microsoft used to get in trouble. Why should they include a TCP/IP stack when so few people have a network connection... fast forward 6 months or a year and the internet is everywhere and everyone is claiming Microsoft has no vision and can't see where the market is going.

It already is, and you can already do that. Window Blinds is very popular tool and uses API's Microsoft designed explicitly to do that. However, the skin is only part of the issue.. there is also functionality behind that, and simply providing new skins can't change the functionality.

There are third party replacement shells to replace your desktop. There are lots of ways you can customize your system. You're arguing for things you can already do.

 

Who said you should bother with two versions on the same desktop? Why would you do that?

 

Well, there you go, I don't think I have a need for any app that does not work without internet connection.

 

That's not for all. There are some like different games calendar and in Windows 10 Maps(if you downloaded on of your region) that work offline. I for on have uninstalled on my windows 8 PC and my windows 10 all apps that I have a desktop version of.

But it is still nice of Microsoft to include for free on a fresh install a handful of useful apps to get people started. I for one try my best to use what Microsoft gives me and only install the tools and programs I really need, that way I do not run into any conflicts with the system or updates when they come down(never had on problem from a patch Tuesday) and on my Windows 7 my last BSOD was 2012 when I was "experimenting" with "Optimization" software(not a good idea). On my Windows 8.1 machine I never had a one.

 

Sure I have a preconceived notion of what "phones" and "desktops" look like. And just as surely, I don't see any blur between 5" and 30" screens (and that's without talking about multiple monitors). To me, that size difference is the reason why they should not look the same, I don't see a point of a phone-like interface on a big screen. Sure, the trend is towards touch. But does it mean one has to abandon more precise methods of input? Besides, the flat square design is plain ugly - but that's of course a subjective opinion.

 

Why should one use a third-party shell? In Win2K I could completely change Windows appearance. I could control colors, sizes, fonts, borders, focus, etc. Of course, if I wanted to make my PC look like a Star Trek monitor, then I would need to get a third-party theme, since I'm not a designer, I simply can't do that. But typically I don't need to. Since then, Microsoft gradually removed user controls. I mostly use Windows 7, and in Aero themes one can't change almost anything. That said, Aero still looks way better that all those flat designs. Why not include such controls? Any Linux distro has them, so it can't be that hard. If a "modern" app is just a gateway to something web-based, then frankly I don't care. But if it's not, why not give me an ability to choose the border and transparency of the window out of the box?

 

What makes you think you can't hook a phone up to a 30" screen, or even more than one? You can do that today. The point you keep losing track of is the fact that the size of the device has nothing to do with its function. There's no reason I can't take a phone sized device and plug it into a monitor and keyboard and use it as a desktop, then unplug it and take it with me and use it as a phone. This is what the future holds, not single-purpose devices that are used for only one thing.

 

One should be happy to have a UI at all. When I was learning to use computers in high school this was my UI Attachment 15614 with out Windows of course

 

Ahhh wonderful TSO.... How I miss thee... (not).

 

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That's good for you Billy Bob but I can only watch one TV at a time, I do have one in my Lamborghini though. People have a right not to like something.

 

They certainly do, it's just that the Store has become a catch cry like Vista and ME or earlier, Windows. You know, I will never use Windows or Vista or ME. Remember the shutdown button in Windows 8 or the one click to get on the desktop.

 

Actually, I have Office 365, which is a subscription and has nothing to do with the Metro/Modern/Universal apps. Each time an update is available, it's my understanding that Office 365 will be updated in the background. There's a public Preview of Office 365 2016 for business, but since I'm not a business subscriber, I can't test.

I understand there is a beta of some sort on Office 2016 for the desktop, which I don't need, since I have the subscription.