Windows 10: How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.

Discus and support How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709. in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; I'd boot my PC from e.g. Minitool Partition Wizard's boot disk. Then decide if I needed to keep the manufacturer's recovery partition. If not, delete... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by dahermit, Mar 16, 2018.

  1. Bree New Member

    How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.


    In fact, there are built-in limits to what Disk Management allows you to do. What you want is beyond its designed capabilities.

    The MiniTools Partition Wizard bootable CD was free up to version 9. Starting with version 10 it became part of the 'paid for' tool and no longer available for free download from their site. The last free version (9.1) is downloadable from an archived copy of the MiniTools site as it appeared in 2016. You can access that at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine here...

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160307...otable-cd.html
     
  2. Barman58 Win User
    Barman58, Mar 17, 2018
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  3. SIW2 Win User
    *Ditto

    I agree with that. For those wishing to use 3rd party tools, Aomei is very good and most functions are available in the free version.

    However,the OP wants to use windows own tools, and they are capable of performing the task he requested.
     
  4. Bree New Member

    How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.

  5. Bree New Member
    This thread itself was actually spawned as a separate question after this one identified the problem preventing an upgrade to 1709.

    How to get rights to copy to Root of C:
     
  6. topgundcp Win User
    Based on your Disk Management. You have a cloned copy of disk 1 from disk 0.
    IMO, The easiest way to do this is to use Macrium. In the video below, I setup my disk 4 &5 the same as your disk 0 &1. So from Macrium you would use disk 0 & 1. the final result with the partition resized to 550MB, skipping 15GB partition.

    Once done. Disconnect disk 0 then boot up Windows.

    If failed to boot, boot up Macrium Rescue disk then click on "Fix Boot Problems"

    [youtube]s5Wx2gSwe7I[/youtube]
     
    topgundcp, Mar 19, 2018
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  7. zbook New Member
    Did the Panther logs confirm that the problem was inadequate free space in the partition?
    If so could you post the portion from the log.
    It typically displays the amount of space that it was seeking, the amount of space found, and the deficiency.

    Using file explorer > this PC > C: > in the right upper corner search for: (by default they may be hidden > click view > check hidden items
    C:\Windows\Panther
    setuperr.log
    setupact.log
     
    zbook, Mar 19, 2018
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  8. How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.

    The elephant in the room is that 15gb recovery partition. After I found the OP's description were he purchased this system from, he might as well throw that recovery partition away. It contains (Who knows what version) windows 7. The reseller to W7 and did the Free upgrade to W10. For the OP to recover all the way back to W7 would take months to get back to 1709. He could easily delete that partition and expand the system reserved partition (Even with Disk Mgmt) and be happy.
     
    storageman, Mar 19, 2018
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  9. dahermit Win User
    Thanks for your explanation of a Recovery Partition. I now have Minitool Partitioning Program and will delete the System Reserved partition and expand System Reserved.
     
    dahermit, Mar 19, 2018
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  10. dahermit Win User
    I have found those logs but they are so large that I would not know how to find or determine that place where the amount of space that it was seeking, the amount of space found, or any deficiencies can be found. Nevertheless, I am posting them here in the hope that someone can make sense of them.
    Login - Dropbox
     
    dahermit, Mar 19, 2018
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  11. zbook New Member
    When posting the logs please use one drive or drop box share links.
    See if you can find any of these logs from the past week:

    PANTHER logs
    C:\Windows\Panther
    setuperr.log
    setupact.log
    Setupmem.dmp
    setupapi.dev.log
    BlueBox.log
    Event logs (*.evtx)
    C:\$Windows.~BT\Sources\Rollback
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback\setupmem.dmp
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback\setupapi\setupapi.dev.log
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback*.evtx
    $Windows.~BT\Sources\Panther\UnattendGC
     
    zbook, Mar 20, 2018
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  12. dahermit Win User
    Addendum:
    Haveing gotten rid of the Recovery partition, combining it with the System partition and letting Windows Update Assistant attempt to download the update again, I have found that this A.M. it again failed with the error: Oxc1900200. Therefore, it is safe to assume that the problem with my computer is not caused by too many partitions.

    The problem must be something else.
     
    dahermit, Mar 20, 2018
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  13. Barman58 Win User

    How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.

    What I would do in this position is ...
    • Download a fresh copy of the .ISO file for the update.
    • Backup any data on the drive.
    • Completely clear the drive of all existing data and partitions.
    • Perform a fresh install to the blank disk.
    • Once the install is fully working, shrink the main partition and create a new data partition and restore the backed up data

    This procedure would remove any doubt of an issue with the existing installation or the update data, and also allow the installer to make whatever partitions it requires.

    Obviously the downside if this is that you will need to tune the system to your liking and re-install your applications.

    As we are a short time away from the release of the 1803 major feature update I would probably wait for that to be available before proceeding with anything, (just in case they move the goalposts again with regard to partitions)
     
    Barman58, Mar 20, 2018
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  14. dahermit Win User
    Some of my applications are no longer supported or available online for downloading. If I understand your suggested process, it means those applications/settings would be lost? If a doing a clean install means that I have to rebuild my applications and settings from scratch, I would rather just live with the problem...as much as it kills me that there is a fault in my system somewhere. I would rather kick the can down the road until the new update comes out...or still hope that someone here can come up with a fix for my system.
     
    dahermit, Mar 20, 2018
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  15. Barman58 Win User
    Yes my process is a drastic one, and one that should not be needed. However, although the Windows Update process is far more reliable than it ever has been in the past it's still not perfect and every so often there is a need for a clean state approach. Slight issues that would be cleared by a fresh install remain in an updated install, and can then cause issues like yours

    This is Best applied with windows 10 at one of the twice yearly major updates xx03 or xx09, (the next 1803, is due shortly), but the best time is always when it suits you best.

    I would start looking for suitable applications to replace those you rely on that are no longer supported/available, and when you are happy with these bite the bullet and perform the full fresh install.

    The problem I see is that whilst the system is still usable it is only likely to get worse over time, not improve
     
    Barman58, Mar 20, 2018
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