Windows 10: I have gone back to Windows 7

I have this old copy of Paint shop Pro7. over five years old,even had it on my XP system. Been able to install it on win7 Win8.1 and now Win10. Have newer programs that will not install,
The software companies of the programs, want to sell me a new program it's a money grab for some.

 

Its not always a "Money Grab" without new versions and paying for them every few years there will be no progress. It costs real money to develop programs, would you work for free? Why do people expect this from Software

 

The purpose of my thread is to inform others who may also encounter problems with Windows 10 about the experience I have had. It is not intended to incite a shouting match about "terrible" Microsoft or bad 3rd party software companies.

My desktop system is first-rate, equipped with excellent components and has up-to-date apps and drivers. Not all good software proves to be compatible with every other good software product.This is my desktop computer:

Computer Type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number ZT855
OS Windows 10 Professional (or Windows 7)
CPU Intel I5-3450
Motherboard Gigabyte H67MA-USB3-B3
Memory 16GB


Graphics Card AMD Radeon 7750
Sound Card Xonar DGX
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung
Screen Resolution 1366 x 768
Keyboard Logitech
Mouse Logitech
PSU Corsair CX600
Case ZT855
Cooling ZT855
Hard Drives 3 Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250GB each 1 Crucial MX100 512GB
Internet Speed DL 65.18 UL 14.37
Browser Chrome
Antivirus Webroot



Two of the apps that have failed are Microsoft Lifecam HD3000 and the Samsung Magician Rapid Mode Drive. Both of these products are today's iterations.

Each will not function under Windows 10. I have been in contact with both Microsoft and with Samsung. They have told me that they are working on solutions.



So, the OS on my desktop will not allow use of the start menu and two integral apps will not work on my computer.

I will pull the SSD that house Windows 10, install it in an old computer and play with it. I simply need a functioning desktop NOW with Windows 7, I can do the computing I need to do at present.

I thank each of you for your comments. They are informative and interesting.

 

Thanks Carbuff, nice system, I have no idea why windows 8.1 drivers are not working for those. but I have only two test systems here and they are laptops

 

I am another who doesn't think W10 is ready for "prime time" quite yet, but am sure it will develop. So I have it installed on a separate disk that I keep up to date and play around with. For getting work done, I have W8.1 Pro installed on it's own disk. I like to keep the OS's separate, because it is much easier for doing system images.

 

You shouldn't need any software to use the webcam, just drivers. Whatever video chat program you are using would be ready to go.

As for the Samsung software, I'm posting this from my HP ultrabook with a Samsung Evo 840 installed, no issues whatsoever.

 

Your saying "posting" if one lays out $200 dollars and six Months later Microsoft has a new OS,you need to buy another program? Yeah!! Yeah!! and YEAH!!! I sure don't think it's progress for us program buyers. Maybe pay a small amount for updating the program, but buy a full new program maybe you but not this guy.

 

Gee, technology does advance, even under the hood. There is a reason why Windows wont download 10 for (free) those aged beyond Windows 8.1 ...and there even seems to be some reluctance doing 7! and forget Vista or XP!

 

I get what you are saying, but it seems the issue here was with hardware, not software. I do believe that hardware manufacturers should be held responsible to make their products work with a new OS, especially the one that is going to have a massive install base. It is also a moot point here, because the things the OP had been referring to work just fine in Windows 10, suggesting he had other issues or didn't follow normal processes of checking for driver updates, etc.

 

And i agree with you as i have one G73JH ASUS Computer that is having problems with my Roxie Video editing program. I feel it's a problem with the ATI video card,as the same program is working fine in another G73SW ASUS computer that has a NVIDA video card. And it seems there is no update for the ATI card from ASUS support.

 

Good points, and with respect to HP PCs, their website implies that only their machines made in 2013 or newer will run Win10 without problems. Unfortunately, unlike other hardware manufacturers like Sony and Toshiba, they haven't come out and warned folks about Win10 corrupting older machines, typically Win7 machines, and appear to be happy to let their forums fill up with over 100 posts a day from folks complaining about problems. So, I agree that hardware manufacturers should take some responsibility for the Win10 problems and notify their customers NOT to upgrade, and (at the same time) actively work on fixes for those problems. Not all of them seem willing to do that.

The other issue, which MS should be addressing, is that their Win10 compatibility checker is doing a lousy job of detecting older PCs that will not handle the update well. We hear all the time about CPU deficiencies being caught in advance, but other problems, especially hardware for which there is no Win10 driver, seems to keep slipping "through the cracks". And how hard can this be? The compatibility checker scans the hardware and anything for which MS does not have a current Win10 driver is flagged as a problem. Isn't that how it should work? Well -- it doesn't, at least, not all the time. Every day folks are posting on the HP forums about hardware that no longer works after their Win10 upgrade due to lack of drivers. I'm not saying the lack of drivers is MS's fault; I'm saying the compatibility checker should prevent an upgrade in cases where MS does not have current Win10 drivers.

 

My Machine is going on 5 years and it runs Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit great. I have little or no use for HP, they made a great calculator back in the 1980's . I prefer to build my own. Before you installed Windows 10 did you run that app that tells you if it will run on your PC?

 

*Thumbs

I knew reading your OP that you understood right off the bat. Really can't believe what I'm reading from both sides. An OEM never promises, nor held by any law that a particular machine should run "the next OS". By law it needs to run the OS loaded on it when purchased. Nor does any 3rd party software claiming that it runs on a particular OS needs to run on the next. No more. No less.

Bought this old Acer here with Vista preloaded. I was one of the lucky ones to run 7. Then I got to thinking that I would surely need a new rig with the advent of 8. Went through the preview process and to my surprise got lucky again. Then shortly after they released 8.1. Still again I got lucky, until 8.1.1, then my onboard graphics driver started to fail for it was outdated. It would boot and run, but the driver would fail and recover. So knowing when I bought it that it had an video expansion slot I purchased a MSI graphics card and I'm off and running once again. Dual monitoring to boot. 10 Pro runs absolutely great on this thing. BTW, all 64bit systems.

Moral of the story? Damn lucky! *Biggrin

 

Both my old G73 ASUS computers bought in 2010 came with Win7Pro one was upgraded to 8& then8.1,both today are running Win10 only one has a video resolution problem, but other then one program with this item both computers are doing fine running Win10.
Before it seemed I was finding both systems frozen and needing the power&battery removed to shut them down, now this has not happened with Win10.

 

same here.

Cortana is buggy. Doesn't show sports for my NFL or college football teams.

Start Menu is buggy. Randomly freezes. Mail and calendar live tiles sometimes work. Sometimes don't.

Random notification sounds but no notifications in action center

Hate Edge browser. No options to sort bookmarks and other minor things that add up.


Just very underwhelmed with W10