Windows 10: I have gone back to Windows 7

. . ."So". . .don't really care who goes back to Seven, Eight, Eight point one, Linux, OSX. . . they all worked for me, albeit I choose Ten. . .*Smile

 

You should have tested your software on the TP before upgrading to 10, as far as the start menu, that is just a glitch on your system, which I`m sure a clean install would fix, but if your software is not compatible with 10 yet, then by all means stick with 7 *Smile

@ BRKING, so don`t use Edge, use Chrome or your favorite browser.

 

Good advice check your software first and have a back up computer running win7. I am betting after a few fix's from Microsoft Win10 will be a stable product.

 

I would argue that it is a stable product already, and that it is the third party vendors who needed to be prepared. This was the lesson the entire industry learned with Vista. It wasn't that Vista was a bad OS, but when you buy a new Dell at Best Buy that shipped with 512 MB of memory, and an Nvidia card with no Vista drivers, your experience is going to be awful. Naturally, Microsoft takes the blame. Ever since then, the entire industry has had plenty of time to test out their products with new OSes so they can and should be ready for the release dates.

 

This was more of a problem that Mr.Dell caused selling low priced computers,that were not really ready to work with programs in the market.
BestBuy will sell anything to make a quick buck, it's up to the buyer to research what computer they plan to buy. Myself i would not recommend a Dell system to my worst enemy if i had a worst enema.

 

It was definitely Dell's problem at the time, as well as Nvidia's. No reason for either of them to not be ready. I have been running all Dell exclusively for my company for 10 years. I was a former HP employee until that time. Dell has been cheaper and has offered top-notch support. Personally, my wife has a Dell laptop and I have an HP ultrabook. Dell has left me with nothing to complain about. They all ship their PCs with a bloated install, but no true member of the enthusiast community ever leaves the OS installed from the OEM. I make the restore discs, but them in my home safe, and wipe the drive clean within the first hour of unboxing the computer.

 

Many years ago i bought my first desktop system after trying to use an Apple II,it was a Gateway when Gateway was just starting to build computers, back then each system was run if i recall 12 hours and then tested 100% before being shipped out to customers.
They were going to market a quality product back then,sadly as they quickly built a good reputation forquality computers at a good price,but with demand came changes in quality policies and they would run a few of a batch of builds,quickly shipping everything they could. Sadly this caused a good company to fail and become history.
I bought a HP desktop system running XP,it worked very well for years,when Microsoft quit supporting XP,i bought my first group of laptop computers, two large then top of their line ASUS G73s a smaller ASUS a small HP and a really compact Toshiba.
All were running Win7Pro. And to day all are still running.
Dell has made so many poor moves in their marketing plans,same can be said for HP with their new CEO wanting to drop computers.
We noticed IBM laptops are now sold as something else think they are a high end product of Acer.
That's my rant for today on computers and, it's not a Microsoft problem to solve for the computer makers.

 

I haven't been an HP employee since early 2006. Fiorina acquired Compaq during my tenure and that ended up ruining what was a great company. They've made some bad business decisions since then, enough so to make me glad I'm not apart of it anymore. I still think they make quality products, albeit sometimes expensive. Their inkjet printers are top-notch, but their ink is expensive.

IBM's computer division was sold off to Lenovo. I wasn't a fan of IBM computers before and haven't checked them out since.

 

I was in BestBuy checking prices on HP ink cartridges for my old HP 8500A Plus printer think it cost $300 back then, looked at the new HP 8600 printer,now selling for $199. After giving it a real close look i really found it's parts IMHO cheap and not really ready to last very long maybe that is HP marketing plan under their new CEO.

I am really glad I still have my two old HP11C&one HPC15 calculators,they still work great and their 4 small button batteries last and last and last,maybe for ever. Can't find them anymore they are GONE forever.

 

Their marketing plan has little to nothing to do with their printer quality. HP makes it's best profits in the printer division, and not by making cheap printers. You need to have one and use it before being able to say how they are made. I've been along for five recent purchases of HP printers for close friends and family, and all have been great. The software is a little bloated, but it isn't used. The only negative is the ink cost.

My wife is an amateur photographer, doing so for fundraising, and she does her printing on an HP PhotoSmart Plus 309. We've had it for a few years, and it's built like a tank. Like I said, the only negative is the ink cost.

 

"Windows 7 has served me well over the years and I'm not aware of any need of benefits that Windows 10 may offer."

there is one big benefit with w10. the never-fixed USB problems w7 has are fixed on w10. when you plug a usb device into w7 you are told there is a problem with the drive. you choose to fix it and it reports there were no errors found. plug it in again and the 'error in drive' problem starts up again.

as most things we plug into a PC are USB these days this is a major irritation. windows 10 finds and actually fixes usb problems. these are FAT or file problems usually because the device was used on a non-wi does system, like android.

if i couldn't dual-boot i would stick with win7 too. give win10 aboyt 6 months and we'll see a nice o/s.

 

Those USB errors weren't an issue with the OS. They were due to poor USB drivers from chip manufacturers and the myriad of USB devices on the market. That wasn't some major flaw of Windows 7 or anything like that. If you were experiencing those issues more often than normal, than it was an issue with your USB controllers.

 

I bought the same printer when it first came out and I'm in the process of replacing my original set of printheads. While these cost $65 each, and I need both of them, that's not bad for a set of components that are only supposed to last two years.

I have read reviews of the 8500's replacement, the 8600 series, and there are a lot more complaints about those than the 8500s.

 

That is what my feeling were after looking at the new HP8600s. Now just looking is not really getting into them but it's my feelings. I am not a really big printer user for the print item. I do more scanning then printing. So my old HP printer sure is not in need of new print heads today.i also have an older HP Officejet 6500 USB printer as a back up to my 8500.

 

IMHO I think a lot of people either don't know or can't remember the issues that always come with the rollout of a new OS. They think of 7 in it's current pretty stable state, and don't remember that it's really Vista +, or how 8 had to go to 8.1 to gain any acceptance. The issues people are having reflect the huge variance in the machines and software out there. To MS credit they have always tried to make their OS as backward compatible as possible, but that's a major if not impossible task. I think this shows up the most in laptops that can vary significantly within the same model.

As HippsieGypsie stated, I too have been extremely lucky with the upgrades I've done. I've done 5 in all, 6 if you count a clean install I did on one of them after the upgrade. My test machine is an old AMD Athlon 64 M2 machine that belonged to my late father. Just a simple base pc that he ran XP on. The only upgrade I made to it was add more ram, since it only had 2gigs. I've used it as my insider machine for awhile now and it runs great. I'm actually surprised how fast it is. Never going to be a gaming machine but for my purposes it's great. I also upgraded a HP and Acer laptop without any issues. Neither of them were the latest and greatest either, but both are a lot more usable than they were with 8.1. So am I just lucky, or did that luck have something to do with the precautions I took prior to upgrading, and realizing that under the best of circumstances, sometimes you have to chase down the right drivers.

Finally since this thread moved to the printer arena. I've used HP printers for a long, long time and I've really never had one to fail mechanically. It's just the cost of the ink that's a real issue. I really don't print that much, so the ink usually dried out before I used it up. I tried all the "tricks" to get them to last but none really worked for me. So like many others, I switched to a laser printer. I plugged into my network and it works like a charm. Win10 picked it up on all my machines without a problem. I put up my color inkjet for those rare occasions that I might actually have to print something in color.

Sorry, a bit of a ramble I know, but the bottom line is that I'm very satisfied with Win10. For the features I don't like I turn them off or switch to a different program. While nothing is perfect, I think overall MS did a good job on this one.